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Post by finsobruce on Feb 7, 2019 23:57:05 GMT
I sense a possible election petition. There are no grounds for such a petition. Suspension from a political party one was standing for is not grounds for an election petition, whether they were successful or not in their election campaign. someone is helping the police with their enquiries......
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Post by iain on Feb 7, 2019 23:57:18 GMT
LAMBETH Thornton DONNELLY, Stephen George (Labour) 1,154 MACNAIR, Rebecca Susan (Liberal Democrat) 845 AUDSLEY, Adrian John (Green) 251 READ, Martin Lester (Conservative) 247 FAZAL, Leila (Women’s Equality Party) 46 PLUME, John Kenneth (UKIP) 36 We may fancy our chances in the second by-election here
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Post by greenhert on Feb 7, 2019 23:58:47 GMT
LAMBETH Thornton DONNELLY, Stephen George (Labour) 1,154 MACNAIR, Rebecca Susan (Liberal Democrat) 845 AUDSLEY, Adrian John (Green) 251 READ, Martin Lester (Conservative) 247 FAZAL, Leila (Women’s Equality Party) 46 PLUME, John Kenneth (UKIP) 36 Percentages:
Labour 44.7% (-18.2%) Liberal Democrats 32.8% (+23.1%) Green 9.7% (-1.7%) Conservative 9.6% (-6.4%) WEP 1.8% UKIP 1.4%
Swing 20.6% Labour to Liberal Democrat (higher than I was expecting).
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Post by ricmk on Feb 7, 2019 23:59:25 GMT
LAMBETH Thornton DONNELLY, Stephen George (Labour) 1,154 MACNAIR, Rebecca Susan (Liberal Democrat) 845 AUDSLEY, Adrian John (Green) 251 READ, Martin Lester (Conservative) 247 FAZAL, Leila (Women’s Equality Party) 46 PLUME, John Kenneth (UKIP) 36 We may fancy our chances in the second by-election here I had to check whether you were referring to Lambeth or Wycombe..... suspect we haven't heard the last of that one.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Feb 7, 2019 23:59:58 GMT
I nominate this week for the prize of the most eccentric set of by-elections this year. Come 31st December I guess it will still win. If only there had been one in Gwynedd too.
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Post by greenhert on Feb 8, 2019 0:02:50 GMT
BRADFORD Bolton and Undercliffe SUNDERLAND, Rachel Emma (Liberal Democrat) 1,733 HUSSAIN, Amriz Khan (Labour) 1,153 SINGH, Ranbir (Conservative) 418 WORSNOP, Phil (Green) 73 Percentages: Liberal Democrats: 51.3% (+9.0) Labour: 34.1% (-10.6) Conservative: 12.4% (+2.4) Green: 2.2% (-0.8)
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 8, 2019 0:03:49 GMT
Get ready for a long night waiting for Tower Hamlets:
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 8, 2019 0:04:29 GMT
I sense a possible election petition. There are no grounds for such a petition. Suspension from a political party one was standing for is not grounds for an election petition, whether they were successful or not in their election campaign. The winning candidate has been arrested. I would suggest that there may be grounds for an election petition depending on the outcome of that. I do have some experience of election petitions.
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Post by greenhert on Feb 8, 2019 0:04:42 GMT
WOKINGHAM Evendons KERR, Sarah Louise (Liberal Democrat) 1,441 CLAWSON, Daniel (Conservative) 729 LLOYD, Tim (Labour) 115 Percentages:
Liberal Democrats 63.1% (+16.3%) Conservative 31.9% (-8.8%) Labour 5.0% (-7.5%)
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 8, 2019 0:05:04 GMT
Get ready for a long night waiting for Tower Hamlets: Normal for Tower Hamlets then.
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Post by greenhert on Feb 8, 2019 0:05:57 GMT
There are no grounds for such a petition. Suspension from a political party one was standing for is not grounds for an election petition, whether they were successful or not in their election campaign. The winning candidate has been arrested. I would suggest that there may be grounds for an election petition depending on the outcome of that. I do have some experience of election petitions. That would not disqualify him from standing for election at the time of election, so an election petition on that basis would not succeed either.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 8, 2019 0:07:20 GMT
Important news for anyone staying up to hear from Tower Hamlets:
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 8, 2019 0:11:15 GMT
Get ready for a long night waiting for Tower Hamlets: Normal for Tower Hamlets then. Should have known really, shouldn't we.
see you all tomorrow then.
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 8, 2019 0:11:19 GMT
The winning candidate has been arrested. I would suggest that there may be grounds for an election petition depending on the outcome of that. I do have some experience of election petitions. That would not disqualify him from standing for election at the time of election, so an election petition on that basis would not succeed either. OK, I'm trying to be careful here because none of this has been confirmed, but the arrest was alleged to have been about election offences. This has been covered in this thread. As I said, I have some actual practical knowledge of election petitions, I do know what is at least viable.
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Post by ideal4radio on Feb 8, 2019 0:12:47 GMT
Get ready for a long night waiting for Tower Hamlets: I'm told the result will be at 3.30pm on Sunday afternoon, but that's subject to change ....
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 8, 2019 0:14:02 GMT
The winning candidate has been arrested. I would suggest that there may be grounds for an election petition depending on the outcome of that. I do have some experience of election petitions. That would not disqualify him from standing for election at the time of election, so an election petition on that basis would not succeed either. The point is the candidate was arrested on suspicion of bribery, thus (from Wikipedia): The result of an election can be challenged on the grounds that corrupt practices have taken place by the presentation of an election petition to the courts within the period of 21 days after the date of the election. If the election court which hears the petition determines that a corrupt practice has taken place, it issues a report finding the relevant individuals guilty. A candidate may be reported as personally guilty if they were directly involved with the corrupt practice, or if it was committed with their knowledge or consent. A candidate may also be reported as "guilty by his agents" where his election agent or those working on his campaign commit corrupt practices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 0:16:16 GMT
Important news for anyone staying up to hear from Tower Hamlets: Is that 3am Sunday? Or 3am next Thursday?
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 8, 2019 0:19:05 GMT
That would not disqualify him from standing for election at the time of election, so an election petition on that basis would not succeed either. OK, I'm trying to be careful here because none of this has been confirmed, but the arrest was alleged to have been about election offences. This has been covered in this thread. As I said, I have some actual practical knowledge of election petitions, I do know what is at least viable. However if found guilty of charge(s) relating to the offence referred to in the Police’s Tweet, then I’m guessing any discussion of Election Petitions is likely to be moot as the sentence is surely going to be of an automatic disqualification length anyway? This is a genuine question, but can the Electoral Court, even if it has to receive a complaint within 28 days of the election, usurp a criminal investigation? How do you overcome the potential of being declared innocent by one but guilty by the other? Would not a guilty verdict in an Electoral Court held before any criminal trial end the chances of a free and fair criminal trial (unless the verdict was embargoed until after any criminal trial)?
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 8, 2019 0:20:37 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 8, 2019 0:34:36 GMT
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