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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 11, 2019 10:14:31 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 11, 2019 10:17:51 GMT
Strange, it opens for me on my iPhone but not my iPad.
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Post by ColinJ on Jun 11, 2019 10:35:42 GMT
Will this by-election, like the Glenrothes by-election (Nov 2008), be tainted by unproven allegations of wrong-doing? The similarity between Peterborough and Glenrothes was the fact that the winner was unexpected in many quarters - i.e. the voters defied the pundits.
In Glenrothes, the disappearance of the Marked Register (later corrected by the creation of a substitute) fed the conspiracy theorists. At least in Peterborough the local council has promptly embarked on a rebuttal process....
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 11, 2019 10:43:03 GMT
Will this by-election, like the Glenrothes by-election (Nov 2008), be tainted by unproven allegations of wrong-doing? The similarity between Peterborough and Glenrothes was the fact that the winner was unexpected in many quarters - i.e. the voters defied the pundits. In Glenrothes, the disappearance of the Marked Register (later corrected by the creation of a substitute) fed the conspiracy theorists. At least in Peterborough the local council has promptly embarked on a rebuttal process.... And in this case, it also gives the conspiracy theorists an excuse for including Muslamics in their ranting. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 11, 2019 10:52:02 GMT
Were there seriously some people who don't live in Peterborough complaining that they couldn't vote in the Peterborough by-election? Yes, but that's because of the way council and constituency boundaries don't coincide. Lots of people who voted in the Peterborough local elections, but didn't realise they were in the North West Cambridgeshire constituency for instance. Actually this is a very reasonable point, and likely causes confusion amongst some voters in a few places. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 11, 2019 10:59:08 GMT
Yes, but that's because of the way council and constituency boundaries don't coincide. Lots of people who voted in the Peterborough local elections, but didn't realise they were in the North West Cambridgeshire constituency for instance. Actually this is a very reasonable point, and likely causes confusion amongst some voters in a few places. Plenty of people on the NW outskirts of Crewe used to complain about not being able to vote for Gwyneth Dunwoody. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 11, 2019 11:02:19 GMT
The amount of problems I've had because constituency boundaries and postal addresses don't align...
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 11, 2019 11:04:57 GMT
Actually this is a very reasonable point, and likely causes confusion amongst some voters in a few places. Plenty of people on the NW outskirts of Crewe used to complain about not being able to vote for Gwyneth Dunwoody. And some inside the constituency boundaries complained because.... |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 11, 2019 11:51:41 GMT
The attached note breaking down the number of eligible postal voters and other voters by ward is interesting. Central ward has a slightly higher percentage of postal voters, but that's only a couple of hundred more. Otherwise it seems to be pretty uniform across the seat. It refused to open for me: "You need permission to access this published document". I had that on the link, but if you go to the council website and click through to the item there, it works fine. Sadly, contrary to what the letter implies, it doesn't seem to give in-person turnout on a ward by ward basis. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 11, 2019 12:39:48 GMT
Do other councils get equally bombarded by bonkers questions from conspiracy theorists every time there's a by-election?
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 11, 2019 13:02:42 GMT
Do other councils get equally bombarded by bonkers questions from conspiracy theorists every time there's a by-election? Stoke got a few, mainly Kippers alleging postal vote fraud, after the Central by-election. |
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Post by hedgehog on Jun 11, 2019 13:07:17 GMT
Do other councils get equally bombarded by bonkers questions from conspiracy theorists every time there's a by-election? Sadly a number of Nigel Farage's Brexit party supporters, have bought into the whole Trump, fake news business. How could they not have won Peterborough, thwarted by the Labour party, Muslim postal votes and the establishment, of course its a stitch up, we'll helps with the victim culture and keeps the party focused. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 11, 2019 14:01:56 GMT
Were there seriously some people who don't live in Peterborough complaining that they couldn't vote in the Peterborough by-election?
Yes, but that's because of the way council and constituency boundaries don't coincide. Lots of people who voted in the Peterborough local elections, but didn't realise they were in the North West Cambridgeshire constituency for instance. A very pertinent point. I still have a sneaking suspicion/sinking feeling that some enquiries came from further afield though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:48:14 GMT
Will this by-election, like the Glenrothes by-election (Nov 2008), be tainted by unproven allegations of wrong-doing? The similarity between Peterborough and Glenrothes was the fact that the winner was unexpected in many quarters - i.e. the voters defied the pundits. In Glenrothes, the disappearance of the Marked Register (later corrected by the creation of a substitute) fed the conspiracy theorists. At least in Peterborough the local council has promptly embarked on a rebuttal process.... And in this case, it also gives the conspiracy theorists an excuse for including Muslamics in their ranting. But Labour haven't done much to help their own cause when they had a convicted postal vote fraudster Tariq Mahmood involved in their campaign team by all accounts.  |
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Post by janwhitby on Jun 11, 2019 23:22:16 GMT
What are the members views on postal ballots? I once followed a nameless councillor from a nameless party putting through 8 or 9 postal ballots through each door he stopped at and in a local council election won by a margin of 1400 votes.
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Post by johnloony on Jun 11, 2019 23:32:00 GMT
What are the members views on postal ballots? I once followed a nameless councillor from a nameless party putting through 8 or 9 postal ballots through each door he stopped at and in a local council election won by a margin of 1400 votes. What do you mean by "putting through postal ballots through each door he stopped at"? The only postal votes which exist are the ones which are sent in the post to people who have validly applied for them. There would be no reason for anybody other than a postman to have an opportunity to "put them through doors". |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 11, 2019 23:40:24 GMT
What are the members views on postal ballots? I once followed a nameless councillor from a nameless party putting through 8 or 9 postal ballots through each door he stopped at and in a local council election won by a margin of 1400 votes. Postal ballots are supposed to go out via the Royal Mail, some sort of irregularity there, looking very close to illegality. Plus candidates are not allowed anywhere near the ballot printing and dispatching process, so if a candidate and/or councillor is distributing them, prima facia case of breaking & entry, and theft, and interfering with the election process. |
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Post by matureleft on Jun 12, 2019 6:00:50 GMT
Is it perhaps meant that he was distributing application forms for postal votes?
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2019 6:02:35 GMT
What are the members views on postal ballots? I once followed a nameless councillor from a nameless party putting through 8 or 9 postal ballots through each door he stopped at and in a local council election won by a margin of 1400 votes. No you didn't as it is not in the power of anyone to do so. A postal ballot arrives by post from the formal issuing authority to a registered voter at their registered address after that voter has applied for and been registered as a postal voter. You have just made that up. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 12, 2019 7:14:53 GMT
What are the members views on postal ballots? I once followed a nameless councillor from a nameless party putting through 8 or 9 postal ballots through each door he stopped at and in a local council election won by a margin of 1400 votes. Classic urban myth stuff. There's a lot of it about from people who don't have a clue how systems actually work, and propound the most astonishing rubbish. Then other people think they are a "reliable source" and recirculate it. We're all aware that this is how fake news works. The rather po-faced briefing note from Peterborough Council says it all. There are an awful lot of people around who see strange conspiracies because they don't know as much as they think they know, and because there is no general trust in social institutions. |
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