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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 29, 2019 13:33:15 GMT
Ye Gods and little fishes! That is absurdly lenient. Huhne served a quarter of his sentence. 50% off for good behavior and 50% off again as he was released on some kind of curfew (although that could be interesting with 10pm votes in Parliament!). She could well be out by the end of February. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 29, 2019 13:35:25 GMT
Could the prosecution appeal against the leniency of the sentence? I think anyone can? To the attorney general of course. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 29, 2019 13:36:25 GMT
A patently obvious racist decision when contrasted with the Huhnes. Here is a woman who was a officer of the court denying her offence, conspiring with her brother to corrupt justice and blatantly attempting to incriminate an innocent man given a lesser sentence than two people who were not officers of the court and did not conspire to fit up an innocent foreigner. This is utterly disgraceful but no surprise at all in modern Britain. I rarely find myself in agreement with Carlton on a matter of political judgement but here I'm afraid I do . The sentence seems to bear no relation to what she did, only to who she was, and it is a real blot on our legal system. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 13:37:02 GMT
Carlton can be a racist twat all he wants but the fact is that there's a substantial difference. Huhne pressed Pryce to lie for him. Fiona Onasanya went along with her brother's spontaneous lie.
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Post by hedgehog on Jan 29, 2019 13:37:15 GMT
I hope the commons proxy voting trial doesn't include those who can't vote due to being held at her majesties pleasure.
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 29, 2019 13:41:40 GMT
I hope the commons proxy voting trial doesn't include those who can't vote due to being held at her majesties pleasure. I thought it was about women who were in a state of confinement.. ah, I see what you mean  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 29, 2019 13:46:11 GMT
Carlton can be a racist twat all he wants but the fact is that there's a substantial difference. Huhne pressed Pryce to lie for him. Fiona Onasanya went along with her brother's spontaneous lie. But the forms were sent to her, not to her brother. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 29, 2019 13:46:19 GMT
Fiona Onasanya went along with her brother's spontaneous lie. Yeah, right. And I'm the Archbishop of Canterbury.
This stinks. I'm with carlton43 and yellowperil on this, the judge has bent over backwards to be ultra-lenient towards a member of a minority ethnic group here. As we are repeatedly told at work, positive discrimination is still discrimination, and is just as wrong. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 13:47:55 GMT
Carlton can be a racist twat all he wants but the fact is that there's a substantial difference. Huhne pressed Pryce to lie for him. Fiona Onasanya went along with her brother's spontaneous lie. But the forms were sent to her, not to her brother. That's irrelevant. As the Judge said, her car was driven by others in the household and her belief that someone else was driving on this occasion was genuine. |
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 29, 2019 13:54:32 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 13:58:04 GMT
"In these circumstances I find your evidence that you failed to check properly what you had been doing on 24 July and that you passed the NIP to your mother’s home to be credible, supported as it is by your brother’s evidence that he was passed the NIP by your mother. What matters is that I am not sure that you passed it to your brother (directly or indirectly) with the intention of perverting the course of public justice." www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sentencing-remarks-onasanyadocx.pdf |
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 29, 2019 13:58:25 GMT
What a "role model to young black women" she is, indeed!
Tom Barton@tombarton
Judge: you have been an able parliamentarian and a role model to young black women by your achievements.
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 29, 2019 14:02:13 GMT
Last time I checked, an able Parliamentarian doesn't leave over 5,000 emails from constituents unopened or unanswered.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 14:03:47 GMT
Last time I checked, an able Parliamentarian doesn't leave over 5,000 emails from constituents unopened or unanswered. What would you do if you suddenly got 5,000 individual emails asking for different help, had lots of other things to do, and didn't have anyone else to help you? |
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 29, 2019 14:08:40 GMT
Last time I checked, an able Parliamentarian doesn't leave over 5,000 emails from constituents unopened or unanswered. What would you do if you suddenly got 5,000 individual emails asking for different help, had lots of other things to do, and didn't have anyone else to help you? It didn't happen "suddenly", David. 5000 people didn't just sit down one day and decide to write to their MP. This built up over time. If so inept that she didn't know herself what to do, there were scores of Parliamentary colleagues she could have asked for advice, together with officials in the Labour Party. Any of them could have helped. I was going to say that she could have consulted the Whips, who are there to help their MPs in difficult circumstances ... but I forgot that she was quickly promoted herself to the Labour Whips' office by your friend Jeremy. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 29, 2019 14:10:12 GMT
Last time I checked, an able Parliamentarian doesn't leave over 5,000 emails from constituents unopened or unanswered. What would you do if you suddenly got 5,000 individual emails asking for different help, had lots of other things to do, and didn't have anyone else to help you? Fiona of course could have drawn on help and support from her colleagues and their staff. This is no different to what ever new MP goes through at every election. |
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 29, 2019 14:12:04 GMT
David, you do yourself and your Party no favours whatsoever by continuing to defend this dreadful woman.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 14:14:04 GMT
What would you do if you suddenly got 5,000 individual emails asking for different help, had lots of other things to do, and didn't have anyone else to help you? Fiona of course could have drawn on help and support from her colleagues and their staff. This is no different to what ever new MP goes through at every election. That's right - the level of support given to new MPs is well known to be poor across the piece. That rather supports my side of the argument, doesn't it? All the other MPs are busy dealing with their own casework; they're not going to take on someone else's casework. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 29, 2019 14:14:34 GMT
What would you do if you suddenly got 5,000 individual emails asking for different help, had lots of other things to do, and didn't have anyone else to help you? It didn't happen "suddenly", David. 5000 people didn't just sit down one day and decide to write to their MP. This built up over time. If so inept that she didn't know herself what to do, there were scores of Parliamentary colleagues she could have asked for advice, together with officials in the Labour Party. Any of them could have helped. I was going to say that she could have consulted the Whips, who are there to help their MPs in difficult circumstances ... but I forgot that she was quickly promoted herself to the Labour Whips' office by your friend Jeremy. I'm sure David has many friends, but we can safely say that Jeremy Corbyn isn't one of them. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 29, 2019 14:16:57 GMT
David, you do yourself and your Party no favours whatsoever by continuing to defend this dreadful woman. She's not in my party. She wasn't on my wing of it even when she was. The racist vengeance-fest against her is highly reprehensible out of concerns of simple human dignity. |
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