middyman
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"The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money."
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Post by middyman on Sept 30, 2019 17:06:22 GMT
And, as I have said before, there is no food that isn't improved by the application of tomato ketchup.carlton43 didn't like that either.  Really? Ice-cream; Apple Crumble; Stilton; Smoked Salmon? I once saw a diner put tomato ketchup on a roast lunch in a 5 Star hotel. |
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middyman
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"The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money."
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Post by middyman on Sept 30, 2019 17:07:04 GMT
And, as I have said before, there is no food that isn't improved by the application of tomato ketchup.carlton43 didn't like that either. Really? Ice-cream; Apple Crumble; Stilton; Smoked Salmon? All pioneered by Mrs Cropley. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 30, 2019 17:20:13 GMT
It incurs a de-merit point like Face furniture Green hair Tattoos White socks Cuban heels Cowboy boots Baseball caps Hawaiian shirts Shell suits Drinking brown ale Liking Chilean wine Being a Trekkie Watching soaps Being a Strictly fanCollecting comics Eating any English bottled sauceLiving on Take Away food Etc. Only two from your list! I'm not as bad as you thought. Same two for me. Coming from Worcestershire, I take particular exception to the insult to sauce. |
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 30, 2019 17:21:06 GMT
carlton43I love HP sauce , tomato ketchup and Chilean merlot And if you are moving to Sheffield you are going to have to like Hendo's!
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 30, 2019 17:26:19 GMT
HP sauce makes a humble sausage butty into the food of the heavens. And, as I have said before, there is no food that isn't improved by the application of tomato ketchup. carlton43 didn't like that either. The only thing that is improved by adding ketchup is the bin. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 30, 2019 17:33:53 GMT
And, as I have said before, there is no food that isn't improved by the application of tomato ketchup.carlton43 didn't like that either. Really? Ice-cream; Apple Crumble; Stilton; Smoked Salmon? Funnily enough Carlton mentioned ice cream. And funnily enough I shall be having tomato ketchup on smoked salmon in about half an hour. Yummy. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 30, 2019 17:40:48 GMT
Ise versus ize is purely a question of style and preference. It incurs a de-merit point like Face furniture Green hair Tattoos White socks Cuban heels Cowboy boots Baseball caps Hawaiian shirts Shell suits Drinking brown ale Liking Chilean wine Being a Trekkie Watching soaps Being a Strictly fan Collecting comics Eating any English bottled sauce Living on Take Away food Etc. Hm. I believe I own a baseball cap and a pair of white socks, though it's years since I've worn either and they would have been clothing I was given, rather than that I bought. So unless "face furniture" applies to wearing glasses (which would be a very odd thing to hand out demerits for), I probably miss out on all of your demerit categories except preferring the standard English use of -ise over the standard American use of -ize. Which, to be honest, I find horribly disappointing.
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 30, 2019 18:07:42 GMT
The "z" spelling, Carlton? You're slipping You liken me to an unsanded locomotive attempting a start on an icy wet morning! The 'ise' ending is a new variant and 'ize' still regarded as the more correct by the OUP. It stemmed from whether the root verb was from Greek as so many of ours are. If so it should take an 'ize' ending. Then all verbs were deemed better with an 'ize' to avoid confusion and error. Then new voices mainly in the Americas with the stylist Emerson in the lead, and in science came to prefer 'ise'. But in general usage 'ize' tended to hang on in the USA and that caused science to prefer it as well. And it became a mark of the better educated in Britain to continue with 'ize'. And there it rests at present! An American and science idea now shunned in America and by science. But largely adopted by those in Britain with poor English and no taste for style and no knowledge. And there you are Dok, seeking to criticize me on the basis of near total ignorance of all of that??? That is a lot of etymology from someone who confuses Old English with Old Norse! |
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wallington
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Post by wallington on Sept 30, 2019 18:09:12 GMT
Really? Ice-cream; Apple Crumble; Stilton; Smoked Salmon? Funnily enough Carlton mentioned ice cream. And funnily enough I shall be having tomato ketchup on smoked salmon in about half an hour. Yummy. I love ketchup on smoked salmon, always thought it was just me  |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 30, 2019 18:09:23 GMT
Ragnarok. Hmm. In this context would carlton43 consider it to be "The Twilight of the Establishment" perhaps? The Twilight of the Metropolitan Establishment and the Woke may be a damn side closer than many of you care to realize? I would think a Snoflake would survive better in the twilight than the heat of day though... |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 30, 2019 18:12:06 GMT
carlton43I love HP sauce , tomato ketchup and Chilean merlot And if you are moving to Sheffield you are going to have to like Hendo's! Is Carlton moving to God's Own Country?? |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Sept 30, 2019 18:16:42 GMT
The Twilight of the Metropolitan Establishment and the Woke may be a damn side closer than many of you care to realize? And yes, I can't wait for hard fought equality to be rewound by a group of 50-somethings for profit and "sovereignty". I know you don't care about real people, some of us do. Policing speech, various forms of self loathing and sending online hate mobs, and increasingly real ones, to bully, harass and harangue people, and get them fired or expelled from uni, is NOT equality. This woke shit does nothing to increase my equality as a gay man, if anything it imperils me further by making people homophobic who otherwise wouldn't be. I am increasingly optimistic that the end of this woke shit is on the horizon because people are sick of it, and the teens of today are reacting against our pathetically wimpy generation by finally thinking for themselves. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 30, 2019 18:32:14 GMT
I've no particular preference (English not being Greek, after all), though usually use 'ise' because it is now widely (though, yes, quite incorrectly) assumed that 'ize' is American. Though on the origins of the now dominant suffix in Britain, 'ise' comes from the French, not American spelling reformers. It is interesting how rapid the eclipse of 'ize' has been though; there was a Morse episode in which the Oxford preference for 'ize' was an important plot point (with the 'educated' connotations of 'ize' being taken for granted), which I suspect would cause confusion now, just a quarter of a century later.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 30, 2019 18:52:09 GMT
It incurs a de-merit point like Face furniture Green hair Tattoos White socks Cuban heels Cowboy boots Baseball caps Hawaiian shirts Shell suits Drinking brown ale Liking Chilean wine Being a Trekkie Watching soaps Being a Strictly fan Collecting comics Eating any English bottled sauce Living on Take Away food Etc. Hm. I believe I own a baseball cap and a pair of white socks, though it's years since I've worn either and they would have been clothing I was given, rather than that I bought. So unless "face furniture" applies to wearing glasses (which would be a very odd thing to hand out demerits for), I probably miss out on all of your demerit categories except preferring the standard English use of -ise over the standard American use of -ize. Which, to be honest, I find horribly disappointing.
That was intended as just a bit of fun and a mild wind-up to chosen targets GC. Ignore it. I prefer the 'Correct', the original and the better 'ize' ending, as does the OUP and Inspector Morse. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 30, 2019 18:53:47 GMT
carlton43 I love HP sauce , tomato ketchup and Chilean merlot And if you are moving to Sheffield you are going to have to like Hendo's! Is Carlton moving to God's Own Country?? Sheff Hallam no less, I believe. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 30, 2019 18:53:58 GMT
carlton43 I love HP sauce , tomato ketchup and Chilean merlot And if you are moving to Sheffield you are going to have to like Hendo's! What horror is Hendo's? |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 30, 2019 19:13:21 GMT
carlton43 I love HP sauce , tomato ketchup and Chilean merlot And if you are moving to Sheffield you are going to have to like Hendo's! What horror is Hendo's? Henderson's Relish: it is like Worcestershire Sauce but less astringent (no anchovies) and quite heavy on the tamarind. |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 30, 2019 20:01:17 GMT
Is Carlton moving to God's Own Country?? Sheff Hallam no less, I believe. It is a strangely disturbing thought that Carlton might be moving to my birthplace, which I have always considered to be relatively immune to his tendency. 🤔🙄😱 |
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Post by andrew111 on Sept 30, 2019 20:03:46 GMT
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cj
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Post by cj on Sept 30, 2019 20:15:57 GMT
Ise versus ize is purely a question of style and preference. It incurs a de-merit point like Face furniture Green hair Tattoos White socks Cuban heels Cowboy boots Baseball caps Hawaiian shirts Shell suits Drinking brown ale Liking Chilean wine Being a Trekkie Watching soaps Being a Strictly fan Collecting comics Eating any English bottled sauce Living on Take Away food Etc. Chlorochaetophobia is beneath you |
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