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Post by The Bishop on Sept 15, 2018 9:43:07 GMT
I can remember thinking, up to 1999, that the most vociferously anti-Labour MP from the Conservative intake of 1997 was Shaun Woodward. Didn't Shaun Woodward, mere months before defecting, compare Blair to Stalin in a Commons speech? He did precisely that, and repeated the claim in media appearances. |
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Post by tiberius on Sept 15, 2018 9:52:05 GMT
Didn't Shaun Woodward, mere months before defecting, compare Blair to Stalin in a Commons speech? He did precisely that, and repeated the claim in media appearances. What was his justification for his claim? What proof did he supply? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 18, 2018 21:59:52 GMT
He did precisely that, and repeated the claim in media appearances. What was his justification for his claim? What proof did he supply? Both Blair and Stalin have been semi-airbrushed out of history by people who were more than happy to follow them when they were in charge. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 18, 2018 22:27:56 GMT
What was his justification for his claim? What proof did he supply? Both Blair and Stalin have been semi-airbrushed out of history by people who were more than happy to follow them when they were in charge. True, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the basis of his comparison. |
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Post by neilm on Sept 18, 2018 22:48:24 GMT
He did precisely that, and repeated the claim in media appearances. What was his justification for his claim? What proof did he supply? He didn't need to, everyone on his own side at the time would have understood what he meant: there was a lot of stuff in the media about Blair's control freakery. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 19, 2018 10:32:04 GMT
The man himself even famously joked about it in one of his early conference speeches as leader.
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Post by neilm on Sept 19, 2018 19:54:11 GMT
The man himself even famously joked about it in one of his early conference speeches as leader. I was discussing Donald Trump and Mario Kart when I read that! |
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Post by mrhell on Sept 17, 2019 9:50:02 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 10:03:37 GMT
Oh! And here was me believing she really was respecting the referendum result for the last three years.  |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 17, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
Another one for the MP Party.
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Post by agbutler on Sept 17, 2019 10:05:50 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Really? Amber Rudd? That's even worse optics than Phillip Lee. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 17, 2019 10:11:30 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Really? Amber Rudd? That's even worse optics than Phillip Lee. The sublime level of de-drossification of my party proceeds to a level inducing me near to eternal bliss. That I should have lived to such delightful times never contemplated even in the wettest of dreams. Everything about the woman is just so very LD. Why did it take her so long? |
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Post by middyman on Sept 17, 2019 10:16:23 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Is there anyone you won't accept into your Party? |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 17, 2019 10:25:36 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Really? Amber Rudd? That's even worse optics than Phillip Lee. "...worse optics..." Is that those awful less that fifth of a gill sort? Or do you mean 'looks bad'? If so why not say so instead of using nuspeak? |
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Post by matureleft on Sept 17, 2019 10:28:55 GMT
Really? Amber Rudd? That's even worse optics than Phillip Lee. The sublime level of de-drossification of my party proceeds to a level inducing me near to eternal bliss. That I should have lived to such delightful times never contemplated even in the wettest of dreams. Everything about the woman is just do very LD. Why did it take her so long? You still have some not dissimilar people in Johnson's cabinet - Morgan and Hancock are the most obvious. Presumably you would wish them gone too? Both have made sympathetic noises about Rudd (and the wider purge).
I've always thought that politics can be quite personal. Rudd was, I believe, in a relationship with Kwasi Kwarteng, a reasonably keen Brexiteer. That ended last year I think.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 17, 2019 10:29:25 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Is there anyone you won't accept into your Party? Jeremy Corbyn?  |
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Post by mrpastelito on Sept 17, 2019 10:30:14 GMT
Really? Amber Rudd? That's even worse optics than Phillip Lee. The sublime level of de-drossification of my party proceeds to a level inducing me near to eternal bliss. That I should have lived to such delightful times never contemplated even in the wettest of dreams. And there was me thinking even your dreams were dry... |
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Post by middyman on Sept 17, 2019 10:30:27 GMT
Is there anyone you won't accept into your Party? Jeremy Corbyn? I wouldn't be so sure. |
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 17, 2019 10:36:42 GMT
The sublime level of de-drossification of my party proceeds to a level inducing me near to eternal bliss. That I should have lived to such delightful times never contemplated even in the wettest of dreams. And there was me thinking even your dreams were dry... I understand that we all have nightly dreams, but I can hardly ever remember having one since the teens. Except for the very occasional nightmare. |
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Post by thirdchill on Sept 17, 2019 10:45:55 GMT
Been hearing rumours of Amber Rudd's defection to the Liberal Democrats. Given Willie Rennie has just directly referenced her name it's looking increasingly likely it will happen today. Is there anyone you won't accept into your Party? Theresa May 😆 |
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