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Post by johnhemming on Nov 8, 2015 21:28:49 GMT
That may be your view. However, after my presentation to the EU Parliament Petitions Committee on Friday I have been invited to go to Brussels to talk to them in more detail about the problems with the care system and family courts in England (and Wales). I take a view that there is a role for cross party working. One of those areas is stopping the state sponsored baby stealing that goes on in England and Wales particularly (Scotland and NI are not that bad although there are problems). Read my blog for more details. |
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Post by johnhemming on Nov 8, 2015 21:32:00 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 9, 2015 14:55:48 GMT
I'm actually quite sympathetic to John Hemming on this one - the family courts are notoriously secretive and seem very affected by 'fashion' - you will notice that there are far more care orders after a scandal in the press, then you will get the backlash about 'breaking up families' and the numbers will decrease again, and so on.
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Post by anthony on Nov 16, 2015 22:24:48 GMT
There was an issue with AWL entryism in Oxford University Labour Club when I was there. Never seen any sign of them since. When were you there? (there was one AWL activist in the OULC when I was there, and one or two SWSS plus other assorted leftists). |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 16, 2015 22:56:46 GMT
There was an issue with AWL entryism in Oxford University Labour Club when I was there. Never seen any sign of them since. When were you there? (there was one AWL activist in the OULC when I was there, and one or two SWSS plus other assorted leftists). 2003-2007. How about you and which college? |
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Post by anthony on Nov 17, 2015 16:31:15 GMT
2003-2007. How about you and which college? 1998-2001 (although I worked in Oxford in 2002) and Somerville. |
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Post by john07 on Nov 17, 2015 18:19:05 GMT
There was an issue with AWL entryism in Oxford University Labour Club when I was there. Never seen any sign of them since. I remember that when I was at LSE in the late 90s the Labour Club was initially controlled by the Hard Left - proto-Corbynistas - although I don't think they were entryists as such. A bit of looking around on LinkedIn tells me that one of the most self-righteously leftist members of the Club at that time is now a corporate tax lawyer in the City. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true of those AWL types! This guy used to hang around Manchester University like a bad smell when I was there. Initially he wasn't even a student but working as the IMG organiser around the student union. He tried unsuccessfully to interfere with Uinion affairs. He had enrolled as an undergraduate by the time I returned to take an MA but obviously dropped out later. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_TalbotHe stood for a union post and received some unwelcome support from the Mailed Fist (MF). They described themselves as the polar opposite of the IMG. Not so much the British Section of the Fourth International but more the British Section of the Third Reich. The MF put up some posters containing a rather amusing characature of Colin complete with his Trotsky style beard but with added horns accompanied by the slogan: Mesistopheles; The Devil You Know! Vote Talbot. MF He came nowhere in the election. |
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Post by john07 on Dec 1, 2015 16:51:53 GMT
Or joining the sinking shit? |
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Post by AndriyChikatilo on Apr 23, 2017 17:06:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 17:45:33 GMT
Who are these two Pro-Remain Tories who might jump ship to the Liberal Democrats? Anna Soubry and Nicky Morgan? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 23, 2017 19:42:16 GMT
I'd assumed two MEPs, or even ex-MEPs. MPs would be a different thing entirely. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 14, 2018 10:04:47 GMT
Maybe this thread can be revived with the recent news that Vince Cable has apparently been having lunch with unhappy Tory MPs?
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Post by neilm on Sept 14, 2018 10:11:49 GMT
A friend of mine used to do one of those Worker's Beer things at music festivals, and was stuck at Leeds Festival with some far-left groupuscule whose name I forget. Now Dave, being a unrepentant Blairite, wasn't fond of them. Anyone, one night, passing their tent after the late shift, he heard one of them say to the rest of the group: "Seriously, I just couldn't bring myself to bayonet a baby for the revolution, even if were a kulak". I remember going on an NUS fees demo in January or February 2003 or 2004 (probably 2003 as I wanted to raise my profile in the SU) where I sat in front of a bunch of the usual suspects on the coach to London. They were discussing the Fourth International, totally unaware that this really wasn't why people were going. One of them was, amusingly, the son of a chap who is now a lobbyist but in 1997 worked for Tony Blair as 'Head of Corporate Development.' |
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Post by mboy on Sept 14, 2018 10:13:55 GMT
Maybe this thread can be revived with the recent news that Vince Cable has apparently been having lunch with unhappy Tory MPs? People (Lib Dems) are starting to ask if the peculiar rush by Vince and the other MPs to facilitate the possible installation of a non-party member as leader, and the "talks" with leading Labour and Tory moderates, are related. I.e. is there something we do not know, but requires this sudden and unexpected change? |
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Post by neilm on Sept 14, 2018 10:27:51 GMT
Is Anna Soubry really a moderate? She seems fairly sensible on most issues, a bit like Ken Clarke who is sound on everything apart from the EU.
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 14, 2018 10:33:35 GMT
Is Anna Soubry really a moderate? She seems fairly sensible on most issues, a bit like Ken Clarke who is sound on everything apart from the EU. She's quite moderate but is a stone cold Tory. She also hates us (her condescension towards our MPs was palpable when she was a minister)... |
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Post by mboy on Sept 14, 2018 10:37:47 GMT
I think the same is true of most MPs before they defect (I'm sure it was of our former Tories in the 90s). MPs after defection usually tend towards the party they defected to.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 14, 2018 10:47:58 GMT
I can remember thinking, up to 1999, that the most vociferously anti-Labour MP from the Conservative intake of 1997 was Shaun Woodward.
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Post by tiberius on Sept 15, 2018 8:42:04 GMT
I can remember thinking, up to 1999, that the most vociferously anti-Labour MP from the Conservative intake of 1997 was Shaun Woodward. Didn't Shaun Woodward, mere months before defecting, compare Blair to Stalin in a Commons speech? |
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