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Post by erlend on Mar 26, 2013 14:52:03 GMT
I will actually say that making that type of decision is not easy. So credit to Labour for it.
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Post by arnieetc on Mar 26, 2013 17:14:31 GMT
Am reliably informed that there'll be some councillors defecting to Ukip in Yorkshire tomorrow. Don't know any more than that though, sadly.
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Post by arnieetc on Mar 27, 2013 13:55:04 GMT
Scarborough BC: Independent Cllrs Sam Cross representing Filey and John Jay-Hanmer representing Derwent Valley have joined Ukip.
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Post by markgoodair on Mar 27, 2013 14:40:54 GMT
Scarborough BC: Independent Cllrs Sam Cross representing Filey and John Jay-Hanmer representing Derwent Valley have joined Ukip. No Wakefield councillors then? |
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Post by arnieetc on Mar 27, 2013 14:44:09 GMT
Scarborough BC: Independent Cllrs Sam Cross representing Filey and John Jay-Hanmer representing Derwent Valley have joined Ukip. No Wakefield councillors then? Ah, I never said that was going to happen today. I just said 'some councillors defecting to Ukip in Yorkshire tomorrow. Don't know any more than that though, sadly.' |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 27, 2013 15:03:22 GMT
No Wakefield councillors then? Ah, I never said that was going to happen today. I just said 'some councillors defecting to Ukip in Yorkshire tomorrow. Don't know any more than that though, sadly.' I've seen a tweet mentioning that there will be 3 North York district councillor defections announced today at 5pm. www.twitter.com/ellyfyork |
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Post by arnieetc on Mar 27, 2013 15:26:02 GMT
Ah, I never said that was going to happen today. I just said 'some councillors defecting to Ukip in Yorkshire tomorrow. Don't know any more than that though, sadly.' I've seen a tweet mentioning that there will be 3 North York district councillor defections announced today at 5pm. www.twitter.com/ellyfyorkThink it's the two Scarborough BCs and a Northallerton TCer (don't have a name). |
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 27, 2013 15:47:57 GMT
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Post by paulypaul on Mar 30, 2013 19:47:17 GMT
There's mention of a Hillingdon councillor defecting to UKIP. No details yet.
Anyone know whom it might be?
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Post by peterl on Mar 31, 2013 10:45:06 GMT
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Post by marksenior on Mar 31, 2013 10:59:05 GMT
I am sure that, if UKIP continue to rise in the polls and Tory morale continues to stagnate, there will be many further defections to UKIP. I suspect there are plenty of Tory councillors who would have liked to make the move but feared that it would lead to the certain loss of their council seat. With UKIP getting double-digit opinion poll ratings and coming within 1500 votes of winning a parliamentary by-election, they will figure that they might have a decent chance of holding on in their new purple colours. I wonder if there will be any councils where a substantial contingent cross the floor? I wonder if the Tories could lose control of any councils as a result? Also, I know this is fanciful, but is there the possibility of UKIP taking control of a council through defections, like the SDP in Islington in 1981? the Conservatives have lost overall control of Lewes DC following 2 defections to UKIP . |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 31, 2013 11:00:56 GMT
I know of the one in Barcombe & Hamsey. Where is the other?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 11:02:32 GMT
This sounds like a Robo-ism, but I guess the 'push' needed to give UKIP defections wider attention in the media will be provided only when a serving MP jumps. I think the mood music is such that it doesn't even have to be a high-profile member either.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 31, 2013 11:07:36 GMT
Of course the worst thing for UKIP at the moment would be to actually take control of a council and try to put its policies into action.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 11:40:48 GMT
Mad Nad defecting would be a dream come true.
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Post by peterl on Mar 31, 2013 11:42:13 GMT
Of course the worst thing for UKIP at the moment would be to actually take control of a council and try to put its policies into action. That rather depends. There are some very competent people about in UKIP who have been quite successful councillors - Peter Reeve in Ramsey fore instance. Then again, there are plenty of people on the ballot to make the numbers up who may not be the world's best councillors. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 31, 2013 15:21:17 GMT
Of course the worst thing for UKIP at the moment would be to actually take control of a council and try to put its policies into action. That rather depends. There are some very competent people about in UKIP who have been quite successful councillors - Peter Reeve in Ramsey fore instance. Then again, there are plenty of people on the ballot to make the numbers up who may not be the world's best councillors. Peter Reeve has been quite successful at building a base, but he's never had to wield any administrative responsibility on the county council and he's not been above taking advantage of the fact he has no real power to dramatically over-promise. I'm not sure that necessarily translates into being a good portfolio holder. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 31, 2013 15:27:10 GMT
That rather depends. There are some very competent people about in UKIP who have been quite successful councillors - Peter Reeve in Ramsey fore instance. Then again, there are plenty of people on the ballot to make the numbers up who may not be the world's best councillors. Peter Reeve has been quite successful at building a base, but he's never had to wield any administrative responsibility on the county council and he's not been above taking advantage of the fact he has no real power to dramatically over-promise. I'm not sure that necessarily translates into being a good portfolio holder. Indeed. Before that happens the test for Reeve is to see whether we can break out of our Ramsey stronghold and win seats elsewhere. At last years' district elections too much effort was put into winning the third seat in Ramsey ward with as big a majority as possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 16:12:05 GMT
Then again, there are plenty of people on the ballot to make the numbers up who may not be the world's best councillors. That applies to the Tories, Labour, LibDems, Greens and probably everyone else as well! |
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Post by paulypaul on Apr 1, 2013 12:50:24 GMT
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