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Post by No Offence Alan on Mar 17, 2013 14:04:26 GMT
Wonder what favours Farage will give Murdoch then ? Well, since Farage doesn't have any MPs, not a lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2013 16:22:14 GMT
doktorb to join the Tories (or UKIP)? Judging by his recent postings he would be more at home there! He does seem to have *gone native* since the formation of the coalition. I would definatley welcome him into the tory ranks. We need more libertarians, following the defection of the tea-party esque brigade to UKIP. Wonder when he will come out of the closet? |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 17, 2013 16:27:42 GMT
Some in leadership positions would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2013 16:34:04 GMT
doktorb to join the Tories (or UKIP)? Judging by his recent postings he would be more at home there! He does seem to have *gone native* since the formation of the coalition. I would definatley welcome him into the tory ranks. We need more libertarians, following the defection of the tea-party esque brigade to UKIP. Wonder when he will come out of the closet? The clothes in here are comfortable enough, ta  |
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 17, 2013 16:45:47 GMT
Oh come off it. Few people have had more of go at doktorb than me but this is really silly. He has still been very critical of the Tories at times particularly over them being less enthusiastic than him on the subject of constitutional vandalism reform.
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 17, 2013 23:15:20 GMT
He was love bombed prior to the last general as well by Tories. Sometimes (as on the Leveson outcomes) his dislike of Labour makes him come across as more pro Tory than he actually is. Still he's operating in an environment where Labour are the overbearing, clear common enemy so perhaps that's no so surprising. I don't really see anything he says as being incompatible with our party (including flat tax, not least because where it exists in Estonia, the two biggest parties are Liberal parties).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2013 23:33:42 GMT
He was love bombed prior to the last general as well by Tories. Sometimes (as on the Leveson outcomes) his dislike of Labour makes him come across as more pro Tory than he actually is. Still he's operating in an environment where Labour are the overbearing, clear common enemy so perhaps that's no so surprising. I don't really see anything he says as being incompatible with our party (including flat tax, not least because where it exists in Estonia, the two biggest parties are Liberal parties). Well, Liberal-ish. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 17, 2013 23:57:55 GMT
He was love bombed prior to the last general as well by Tories. Sometimes (as on the Leveson outcomes) his dislike of Labour makes him come across as more pro Tory than he actually is. Still he's operating in an environment where Labour are the overbearing, clear common enemy so perhaps that's no so surprising. I don't really see anything he says as being incompatible with our party (including flat tax, not least because where it exists in Estonia, the two biggest parties are Liberal parties). Wasn't endemic tax evasion a major reason for Estonia's introduction of a flat tax? For all our problems, HMRC is much more efficient than its equivalents in Soviet successor states. |
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 18, 2013 0:01:32 GMT
He was love bombed prior to the last general as well by Tories. Sometimes (as on the Leveson outcomes) his dislike of Labour makes him come across as more pro Tory than he actually is. Still he's operating in an environment where Labour are the overbearing, clear common enemy so perhaps that's no so surprising. I don't really see anything he says as being incompatible with our party (including flat tax, not least because where it exists in Estonia, the two biggest parties are Liberal parties). Well, Liberal-ish. Well, if we go down that road we'd spend a long time analysing the Socialist or Social Democratic credentials of a lot of members of Socialist International. So with the definite exception of Fianna Fáil , I'll stick with LI members being Liberals. |
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 18, 2013 0:04:24 GMT
He was love bombed prior to the last general as well by Tories. Sometimes (as on the Leveson outcomes) his dislike of Labour makes him come across as more pro Tory than he actually is. Still he's operating in an environment where Labour are the overbearing, clear common enemy so perhaps that's no so surprising. I don't really see anything he says as being incompatible with our party (including flat tax, not least because where it exists in Estonia, the two biggest parties are Liberal parties). Wasn't endemic tax evasion a major reason for Estonia's introduction of a flat tax? For all our problems, HMRC is much more efficient than its equivalents in Soviet successor states. Yes, and (I think but Erlend would know much better than anyone else on here) they have not committed to it endlessly. Because of the financial slump though it'll stay in place for some time. Flat taxes are very classically Liberal though, especially when they're set low. |
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Post by erlend on Mar 21, 2013 13:19:49 GMT
Going to have to wreck my creds. I like Estonia but do not claim any educated layman or better knowledge of their tax laws.
My personal gut feeling is that moderately gradiented income taxes, where higher earners pay a bit higher a percentage of their income, are reasonable. I am quite clear that you should not take away the wish to make shed loads of money by taxing the pips till they squeak (Britain and Sweden in the 70s). But I can understand the logic of the flat tax may be different where your tax system is leaking like a sieve.
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Post by john07 on Mar 24, 2013 23:17:11 GMT
Doktorb to defect from Preston Council.
oopps maybe a few years late with that one!
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 25, 2013 0:16:59 GMT
Doktorb to defect from Preston Council. oopps maybe a few years late with that one! Oh come on John. I am happy to remind Dok of his little faux pas when he behaves like a total tw@t but what was your reason today? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 9:54:06 GMT
Doktorb to defect from Preston Council. oopps maybe a few years late with that one! Ooh, topical. 20 months after I resigned, well done you. |
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Post by stepney on Mar 25, 2013 10:03:10 GMT
Doktorb to defect from Preston Council. oopps maybe a few years late with that one! Ooh, topical. 20 months after I resigned, well done you. I makes it 34. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 10:07:31 GMT
Ooh, topical. 20 months after I resigned, well done you. I makes it 34. But of course, I was using the maths of a sidestreet accountant. |
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Post by andrea on Mar 25, 2013 23:41:53 GMT
Well, if we go down that road we'd spend a long time analysing the Socialist or Social Democratic credentials of a lot of members of Socialist International. So with the definite exception of Fianna Fáil , I'll stick with LI members being Liberals. To save your time (no, ok, being serious, they claim ethical concerns), Labour have recently decided to switch to "observer status" within Socialist International. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 25, 2013 23:52:55 GMT
The symbolism is distressing, but the SI has become something it was not supposed to be.
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You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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