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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 1, 2024 22:01:38 GMT
So, a new five member Derbyshire Localist group
What procedural advantages flow from being a five-member group that the three Libs Dems did not have? Committee places? Chairmanships? Turn at being Mayor? Trip to Poland?
Was the Conservative passed over or disrespected within the Conservatives? Or is there a leader that he cannot abide?
Will they morph back to being Liberal Democrats in two years time? Is this a Lib Dem expansion strategy by degrees?
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Post by batman on Dec 1, 2024 22:05:31 GMT
It'll all become clear after the next episode of.......SOAP!
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 2, 2024 0:05:20 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... |
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Post by michaelarden on Dec 2, 2024 9:30:56 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... Same as the Lib Dem to Indy defection in Ed Davey's backyard earlier this year. There the hopeless GE paper candidacy was offered as a bribe to keep her on board (and to stop her standing against the Lib Dems somewhere where it may have mattered), but ultimately made no difference. Could the same apply here? (Although I don't think there are many LD target seats in and around Derbyshire). |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 2, 2024 9:49:31 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... Same as the Lib Dem to Indy defection in Ed Davey's backyard earlier this year. There the hopeless GE paper candidacy was offered as a bribe to keep her on board (and to stop her standing against the Lib Dems somewhere where it may have mattered), but ultimately made no difference. Could the same apply here? (Although I don't think there are many LD target seats in and around Derbyshire). I imagine that we'd quite like to get Chesterfield back. And Sheffield Hallam is just over the border (and much of it was formerly in Derbyshire). |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 2, 2024 11:27:26 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... Aha! My first 'hilarious' spot of the day. The batting has been opened. |
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Post by jimboo2017 on Dec 2, 2024 12:02:56 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... Aha! My first 'hilarious' spot of the day. The batting has been opened. I'm more of it's "gaol" not "jail" sort of bloke |
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Post by iang on Dec 2, 2024 12:24:41 GMT
They have apparently said something about lack of regional support, but that seems a rather underwhelming basis for all three to defect
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 2, 2024 12:26:59 GMT
Same as the Lib Dem to Indy defection in Ed Davey's backyard earlier this year. There the hopeless GE paper candidacy was offered as a bribe to keep her on board (and to stop her standing against the Lib Dems somewhere where it may have mattered), but ultimately made no difference. Could the same apply here? (Although I don't think there are many LD target seats in and around Derbyshire). . And Sheffield Hallam is just over the border (and much of it was formerly in Derbyshire). Given that in the recent election you were fifth with 6.1% of the vote, there must surely be better prospects nearby? |
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Post by iain on Dec 2, 2024 12:43:52 GMT
Unintentionally hilarious, as among the three Lib Dems defecting to this seemingly hubristic vehicle are two members who stood for national election for that party on July's general election... Same as the Lib Dem to Indy defection in Ed Davey's backyard earlier this year. There the hopeless GE paper candidacy was offered as a bribe to keep her on board (and to stop her standing against the Lib Dems somewhere where it may have mattered), but ultimately made no difference. Could the same apply here? (Although I don't think there are many LD target seats in and around Derbyshire). You have simply made that up. What is your evidence? |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 2, 2024 13:13:23 GMT
I imagine that we'd quite like to get Chesterfield back. And Sheffield Hallam is just over the border (and much of it was formerly in Derbyshire). Given that in the recent election you were fifth with 6.1% of the vote, there must surely be better prospects nearby? Not a target at the last election, so little or no money spent there. The same is true of a number of other seats where we have reasonable local government presence. In these seats spending by other parties will have worked to depress our vote. And Chesterfield activists will have been advised to head up the A61 to Hallam, in vain as it happened. |
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Post by carolus on Dec 2, 2024 19:43:09 GMT
Flintshire, Broughton South (2027). Chrissy Gee, True Independents to False Independent. Highland, Thurso & North West Caithness (2027). Struan Mackie, Independent (elected as Conservative) to Liberal Democrat. Shropshire, St Martin's (2025). Steve Davenport, Non-affiliated Independent Member (elected as Conservative) to Independent. Shropshire, Oswestry East (2025). John Price, Conservative to Independent. They appear to have been evicted over plans to launch a new party called Shropshire First next year. www.shropshirestar.com/news/2024/11/28/new-political-party-promises-shropshire-first/South Holland, Pinchbeck & Surfleet (2027). Sally-Ann Slade, Conservative to no description. Staffordshire Moorlands, Biddulph East (2027). Jill Salt, Labour to Independent. West Northamptonshire, Headlands (2025). Paul Joyce, Labour to Independent (Non-Aligned). Windsor & Maidenhead, Clewer & Dedworth East (2027). Helen Price, tBfI - the Borough first Independents to Independent. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 2, 2024 21:18:21 GMT
Highland, Thurso & North West Caithness (2027). Struan Mackie, Independent (elected as Conservative) to Liberal Democrat. I think I dislike every single component of that including both his forename and surname |
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Post by iainbhx on Dec 2, 2024 21:58:17 GMT
Highland, Thurso & North West Caithness (2027). Struan Mackie, Independent (elected as Conservative) to Liberal Democrat. I think I dislike every single component of that including both his forename and surname I enjoyed my visit to Thurso a few years ago. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 2, 2024 21:59:36 GMT
Big gay scene?
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Post by michaelarden on Dec 2, 2024 22:35:23 GMT
Same as the Lib Dem to Indy defection in Ed Davey's backyard earlier this year. There the hopeless GE paper candidacy was offered as a bribe to keep her on board (and to stop her standing against the Lib Dems somewhere where it may have mattered), but ultimately made no difference. Could the same apply here? (Although I don't think there are many LD target seats in and around Derbyshire). You have simply made that up. What is your evidence? She was in talks with the Indies on Kingston Council before the election with a view to defecting. I believe the correspondence was given to the party when she announced she was standing in Manchester. Maybe talk to your mates in the NW? |
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Post by carolus on Dec 3, 2024 10:06:32 GMT
Ribble Valley, Dilworth (2027). Lee Jameson, Labour to Independent. Ribble Valley, Dilworth (2027). Nicholas Stubbs, Labour to Independent.
Windsor & Maidenhead, Oldfield (2027). Helen Taylor, tBfI - the Borough first Independents to Independent.
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Post by Rutlander on Dec 3, 2024 18:22:54 GMT
Tim Montgomerie, formerly of ConservativeHome, has now joined Reform UK
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Post by iainbhx on Dec 3, 2024 19:10:46 GMT
I'm very much a non-playing captain these days,. Pleasant town, quite wanderable, nice war memorial, nice pubs, really rather good Indian resto considering much better than Wick which I visited the next day. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Dec 3, 2024 19:15:56 GMT
Tim Montgomerie, formerly of ConservativeHome, has now joined Reform UK Maybe the current Conservative Party will just become mainstream and central/centrist by virtue of all the extremists fleeing to the Farage -Musk Evangelical Society? |
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