spqr
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Post by spqr on Oct 28, 2024 3:54:58 GMT
Barry Answer was SDP candidate for Mansfield constituency right back in the 1987 general election. Stood for the council for the SDP several times in the 1980s but wasn't elected until he'd become an Independent Forum member in 2003. He did, however, win a Notts CC by-election (Pleasley Hill and Broomhill) in 1985. He lost to Labour when standing for re-election in the same ward in 1989. www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/dms/Elections/tabid/71/ctl/ViewCandidates/mid/399/ID/589/Default.aspx |
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Post by casualobserver on Oct 28, 2024 6:35:14 GMT
what's that got to do with the price of fish? certainly has nothing to do with the price of Fysh. |
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ricmk
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Post by ricmk on Oct 28, 2024 8:34:22 GMT
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ilerda
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Post by ilerda on Oct 28, 2024 8:41:22 GMT
One of Farage’s flaws (and I’ve seen a number working both inside and against his political vehicles) is that he consistently fails to appreciate many people’s residual affection for and loyalty to the Conservative brand. They’ve spent their lives believing in and working for this cause, and just because he gave up on it 30 years ago in the pursuit of self-advancement it doesn’t mean lots of other people are as eager to make the same conclusion.
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Post by sonofkrautrock on Oct 28, 2024 10:22:50 GMT
Presumably during what will be a messy set of Tory selections in Bucks. |
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Post by carolus on Oct 28, 2024 18:38:31 GMT
West Lancashire, Aughton & Holborn (2028). Kerry Lloyd, Labour to Independent.
West Lancashire, Old Skelmersdale (2027). Neil Furey, Labour to Independent.
West Lancashire, Tanhouse & Skelmersdale Town Centre (2026). Paul Hogan, Labour to Independent.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 28, 2024 22:39:50 GMT
West Lancashire, Aughton & Holborn (2028). Kerry Lloyd, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Old Skelmersdale (2027). Neil Furey, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Tanhouse & Skelmersdale Town Centre (2026). Paul Hogan, Labour to Independent. Apparently they had voted for a Tory amendment about a swimming pool. God knows what the full story is! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 28, 2024 23:22:53 GMT
West Lancashire, Aughton & Holborn (2028). Kerry Lloyd, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Old Skelmersdale (2027). Neil Furey, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Tanhouse & Skelmersdale Town Centre (2026). Paul Hogan, Labour to Independent. Apparently they had voted for a Tory amendment about a swimming pool. God knows what the full story is! If the last named was the leader of the group then it probably involves the amber nectar. |
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Post by carolus on Oct 28, 2024 23:47:26 GMT
West Lancashire, Aughton & Holborn (2028). Kerry Lloyd, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Old Skelmersdale (2027). Neil Furey, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Tanhouse & Skelmersdale Town Centre (2026). Paul Hogan, Labour to Independent. Apparently they had voted for a Tory amendment about a swimming pool. God knows what the full story is! Sounds like the Labour whips might have gone off the deep end once they found out... |
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Post by tomc on Oct 29, 2024 6:02:25 GMT
One of Farage’s flaws (and I’ve seen a number working both inside and against his political vehicles) is that he consistently fails to appreciate many people’s residual affection for and loyalty to the Conservative brand. They’ve spent their lives believing in and working for this cause, and just because he gave up on it 30 years ago in the pursuit of self-advancement it doesn’t mean lots of other people are as eager to make the same conclusion. Farage's self advancement would have been better served by remaining in the Conservative Party. He gave up on them because they were shit, they have been shit for the entirety of the succeeding three decades. |
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Post by owainsutton on Oct 29, 2024 6:23:32 GMT
West Lancashire, Aughton & Holborn (2028). Kerry Lloyd, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Old Skelmersdale (2027). Neil Furey, Labour to Independent. West Lancashire, Tanhouse & Skelmersdale Town Centre (2026). Paul Hogan, Labour to Independent. Apparently they had voted for a Tory amendment about a swimming pool. God knows what the full story is! Looking at the agenda, it was quite a hefty amendment, completely replacing the recommendations (giving the Deputy Chief Exec delegated authority to explore options for new leisure facilities and to consult on the existing ones) with the establishment of a cross-party subcommittee. |
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Oct 29, 2024 8:06:21 GMT
It might be instructive to investigate the presence or otherwise of leisure facilities in their respective wards for exampleIf I were a betting man I would happily place a few bob on it being threatened with closure to save movey (a not dissimilar scenario to ones next to my ward) |
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Post by cathyc on Oct 29, 2024 9:37:33 GMT
The issue seems to be that two new swimming pools are about to be opened but before they do two current ones are closing. Maybe the Labour councillors will li-do for a while and then resurface.
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ricmk
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Post by ricmk on Oct 29, 2024 9:49:44 GMT
It might be instructive to investigate the presence or otherwise of leisure facilities in their respective wards for exampleIf I were a betting man I would happily place a few bob on it being threatened with closure to save movey (a not dissimilar scenario to ones next to my ward) The agenda report is only 9 pages and confirms you’d win your bet. Subsidising 2 loss-making centres, can’t afford to build new ones, so consulting on closing now and vague aspirations of new ones in the future. No wonder the locals are revolting! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 29, 2024 10:01:12 GMT
Pretty much all council leisure centres are loss-making. They are operated by local authorities as a public service, not to generate income.
(WCC is about the only local authority where the leisure operator pays the council for the right to operate the council's leisure facilities, and the amount paid has been low in the recent past due to COVID closures)
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 29, 2024 11:58:45 GMT
Pretty much all council leisure centres are loss-making. They are operated by local authorities as a public service, not to generate income. (WCC is about the only local authority where the leisure operator pays the council for the right to operate the council's leisure facilities, and the amount paid has been low in the recent past due to COVID closures) There are few phrases in the English lexicon that sour one to utter contempt and total ennui more than LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEISURE CENTRE |
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Post by ilerda on Oct 29, 2024 17:58:07 GMT
Pretty much all council leisure centres are loss-making. They are operated by local authorities as a public service, not to generate income. (WCC is about the only local authority where the leisure operator pays the council for the right to operate the council's leisure facilities, and the amount paid has been low in the recent past due to COVID closures) There are few phrases in the English lexicon that sour one to utter contempt and total ennui more than LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEISURE CENTRE Which is a real shame because some of the best leisure facilities I’ve ever used have been municipally owned and run in Spain and France. The fact they’re so bad here is a symptom of the major flaws in our local government structures and funding model. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 29, 2024 18:09:46 GMT
There are few phrases in the English lexicon that sour one to utter contempt and total ennui more than LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEISURE CENTRE Which is a real shame because some of the best leisure facilities I’ve ever used have been municipally owned and run in Spain and France. The fact they’re so bad here is a symptom of the major flaws in our local government structures and funding model. Really? I don't think so. What is the bloody point of them? I like opera, ballet, drama, films, drinking, jokes, jazz, football and orchestras and find that I am well served by opera houses, theatres, cinemas, pubs, jazz venues, football stadiums and concert halls. Where does the crass invention of 'Leisure Centre' creep into your thinking here. I regard the very phrase as a form of irritating swearword. |
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Post by owainsutton on Oct 29, 2024 18:16:20 GMT
Which is a real shame because some of the best leisure facilities I’ve ever used have been municipally owned and run in Spain and France. The fact they’re so bad here is a symptom of the major flaws in our local government structures and funding model. Really? I don't think so. What is the bloody point of them? I like opera, ballet, drama, films, drinking, jokes, jazz, football and orchestras and find that I am well served by opera houses, theatres, cinemas, pubs, jazz venues, football stadiums and concert halls. Where does the crass invention of 'Leisure Centre' creep into your thinking here. I regard the very phrase as a form of irritating swearword. I can hear the German provincial opera houses laughing from here. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 29, 2024 18:26:51 GMT
Really? I don't think so. What is the bloody point of them? I like opera, ballet, drama, films, drinking, jokes, jazz, football and orchestras and find that I am well served by opera houses, theatres, cinemas, pubs, jazz venues, football stadiums and concert halls. Where does the crass invention of 'Leisure Centre' creep into your thinking here. I regard the very phrase as a form of irritating swearword. I can hear the German provincial opera houses laughing from here. I read the word 'Opera House'? I have attended many of them in Germany. Your point being that most are subsidised, owned or even built by the regional authorities? Correct! In a country that values opera and other forms of high culture. The UK is a sub lowbrow culture with councillors and MP more concerned with darts, snooker, bingo and pop music, rather that opera, art, intellectual cinema/drama or poetry. |
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