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Post by notabrummie on Oct 26, 2024 0:18:36 GMT
Sidney Walker went from Ind to Reform and back to Ind in about 10 weeks. I wonder if he will be tempted back? |
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Post by sanders on Oct 26, 2024 7:09:22 GMT
Mansfield's next elections are in 2027. It's also possible these Councillors retire then. They all look to be old men. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 26, 2024 8:27:36 GMT
Not surprised - they were Independents who were all right wingers but not Tories. MIG were effectively UKIP etc. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 26, 2024 8:38:56 GMT
Barry Answer was SDP candidate for Mansfield constituency right back in the 1987 general election. Stood for the council for the SDP several times in the 1980s but wasn't elected until he'd become an Independent Forum member in 2003.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 26, 2024 8:52:47 GMT
Barry Answer was SDP candidate for Mansfield constituency right back in the 1987 general election. Stood for the council for the SDP several times in the 1980s but wasn't elected until he'd become an Independent Forum member in 2003. Interesting - given that the SDP did very well in 1983 and 1987. And the Tories nearly won - 56 votes. Tory and SDP , Tory and Reform... Mansfield was certainly right wing in the 80's. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 26, 2024 9:09:55 GMT
The 1987 GE campaign in Mansfield was arguably the most unpleasant in the whole country.
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Post by casualobserver on Oct 27, 2024 8:53:07 GMT
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Post by andrewp on Oct 27, 2024 9:12:57 GMT
He stood as an Independent after not being selected as the ReformUK candidate. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 27, 2024 9:36:11 GMT
He stood as an Independent after not being selected as the ReformUK candidate. Looking at the article, the issues are largely about the NHS and pro-climate change (that is his issue). Clearly Reform didn't want him. He likes the LibDem MP - will he switch to LibDem? |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 27, 2024 9:50:18 GMT
He stood as an Independent after not being selected as the ReformUK candidate. Looking at the article, the issues are largely about the NHS and pro-climate change (that is his issue). Clearly Reform didn't want him. He likes the LibDem MP - will he switch to LibDem? He might do, but he’s got a slightly unusual set of views. He basically tried to get Marcus Fysh deselected and wanted to replace him, and got virtually zero support from the local Conservative Party for that idea. He’s very pro climate change and very anti any immigration- he’s a don’t let any foreigners in- so whether the LDs would or should take him. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 27, 2024 9:57:25 GMT
Looking at the article, the issues are largely about the NHS and pro-climate change (that is his issue). Clearly Reform didn't want him. He likes the LibDem MP - will he switch to LibDem? He might do, but he’s got a slightly unusual set of views. He basically tried to get Marcus Fysh deselected and wanted to replace him, and got virtually zero support from the local Conservative Party for that idea. He’s very pro climate change and very anti any immigration- he’s a don’t let any foreigners in- so whether the LDs would or should take him. You obviously know him well - he does say 'control of immigration' but I don't know what he actually says about this |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 27, 2024 11:35:37 GMT
Looking at the article, the issues are largely about the NHS and pro-climate change (that is his issue). Clearly Reform didn't want him. He likes the LibDem MP - will he switch to LibDem? He might do, but he’s got a slightly unusual set of views. He basically tried to get Marcus Fysh deselected and wanted to replace him, and got virtually zero support from the local Conservative Party for that idea. He’s very pro climate change and very anti any immigration- he’s a don’t let any foreigners in- so whether the LDs would or should take him. From the context of this post, I presume you mean he is "pro *dealing with* climate change"? Quite a few on the right could be argued to be in favour of climate change itself..... |
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Post by aargauer on Oct 27, 2024 13:22:55 GMT
He might do, but he’s got a slightly unusual set of views. He basically tried to get Marcus Fysh deselected and wanted to replace him, and got virtually zero support from the local Conservative Party for that idea. He’s very pro climate change and very anti any immigration- he’s a don’t let any foreigners in- so whether the LDs would or should take him. From the context of this post, I presume you mean he is "pro *dealing with* climate change"? Quite a few on the right could be argued to be in favour of climate change itself..... Yes, he's an environmentalist. That combined with hard anti-immigration is an unorthodox mix, I doubt he'll be happy anywhere. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 27, 2024 16:34:19 GMT
From the context of this post, I presume you mean he is "pro *dealing with* climate change"? Quite a few on the right could be argued to be in favour of climate change itself..... Yes, he's an environmentalist. That combined with hard anti-immigration is an unorthodox mix, I doubt he'll be happy anywhere. Blood and soil: the Greens’ fascist roots thecritic.co.uk/issues/august-september-2022/blood-and-soil-the-greens-fascist-roots/ |
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Post by owainsutton on Oct 27, 2024 17:26:29 GMT
Mosley, you say? Just wait until you hear about the sufragettes. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 27, 2024 18:36:31 GMT
From the context of this post, I presume you mean he is "pro *dealing with* climate change"? Quite a few on the right could be argued to be in favour of climate change itself..... Yes, he's an environmentalist. That combined with hard anti-immigration is an unorthodox mix, I doubt he'll be happy anywhere. One could make an argument, if one was really wanting to wind some up, that the current incarnation of the Labour party at least pays lip service to both sides of that position... without actually being serious about either... |
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Post by tonyhil on Oct 27, 2024 19:42:10 GMT
Critical as I am of the Green Party, because of its potential ideological diversity, that article on Green fascism is basically tarring them with guilt by association of ideas. Just because Henry Williamson et al believed in organic farming and were fascists doesn't mean that everyone who believes in organic farming is a fascist, nor that they believe in 'blood and soil'. Similarly, one does not need to believe in all of Rudolf Steiner's bonkers ideas to recognise that there are many aspects of Steiner schools that are educationally beneficial.
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Post by redtony on Oct 27, 2024 21:30:44 GMT
Mansfield was very much UDM tertiary during the miners strike
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Post by batman on Oct 27, 2024 21:55:30 GMT
what's that got to do with the price of fish?
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Oct 28, 2024 2:24:04 GMT
what's that got to do with the price of fish? They were widely regarded to have undermined Scargill's union during the miners' strike. |
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