CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 8, 2024 8:25:38 GMT
Now a Grantham Independent.
Medway, Strood Rural (2027). Elizabeth Turpin, Independent Member to Independent Group. Had been elected as Conservative.
Hinckley & Bosworth, "Ratby, Bagworth & Thornton" (2027). CW Boothby, Conservative to Independent.
Another firm of lawyers straight out of Dickens. Ratby will be the short-tempered partner, Bagworth the most imperious, and Thornton the sweet one (see what I did there?).
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Post by finsobruce on May 8, 2024 9:05:18 GMT
Another firm of lawyers straight out of Dickens. Ratby will be the short-tempered partner, Bagworth the most imperious, and Thornton the sweet one (see what I did there?). Ah, that shows our different thinking. I had Thornton down as the one who is never seen, and quite likely doesn't actually exist.
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 8, 2024 9:39:47 GMT
In a town where I once lived, the local firm of solicitors were the highly inquisitorial Askew & Askew đ
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Post by batman on May 8, 2024 9:56:08 GMT
Apropos of the previous discussion, I would not be happy to see George Osborne in the Labour Party.
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Post by hullenedge on May 8, 2024 10:01:59 GMT
Apropos of the previous discussion, I would not be happy to see George Osborne in the Labour Party. Would you not appreciate his campaigning and communication skills?
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Post by stb12 on May 8, 2024 10:08:59 GMT
Apropos of the previous discussion, I would not be happy to see George Osborne in the Labour Party. Any particular reason or is it a tribal issue?
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Post by islington on May 8, 2024 10:17:43 GMT
In a town where I once lived, the local firm of solicitors were the highly inquisitorial Askew & Askew đ This is off-topic, but since you've raised it -
Years ago (true story), I arrived at my office desk one morning to find a scribbled note asking me urgently to ring a law firm I'd never heard of called Wright Hassall.
Given the cartoonish name, and the fact that the date so happened to be 1 Apr, I assumed that this was a practical pleasantry on the part of some colleague and that if I rang the number it would connect me to Battersea Dogs' Home or something equally ridiculous.
So I ignored it. Only to take a call a few hours later from Wright Hassall, asking why I hadn't responded.
It turns out to be an entirely legitimate firm, based in Warwick, with which I went on to have intermittent dealings in the following years.
Also on this theme, I am delighted to report that there is an estate agency in Worcestershire called Doolittle & Dally.
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Post by batman on May 8, 2024 12:36:52 GMT
Apropos of the previous discussion, I would not be happy to see George Osborne in the Labour Party. Would you not appreciate his campaigning and communication skills? his skills are not relevant. His record precludes him being welcomed. A party that is capable of winning Mid Beds can manage without recruiting Mr Osborne
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Post by Rutlander on May 8, 2024 14:29:27 GMT
Peterborough UA: Simon Barkham LD => IND "his decision to leave the group was a âjust a parting of peopleâ and ânot an issue with the partyâ."
His ward is Paston & Walton where Nick Sandford, mayor and longtime LD cllr, lost his seat - narrowly - last week. The ward has now 1 IND, 1 LD and 1 CON
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on May 8, 2024 14:59:52 GMT
Apropos of the previous discussion, I would not be happy to see George Osborne in the Labour Party. Any particular reason or is it a tribal issue? I repeat, he did a great deal to create the distinctly sub-optimal state we are now in - both economically and politically. At the very least, I would expect some repentance for that first - and indeed more than a token amount.
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Post by stb12 on May 8, 2024 15:22:25 GMT
Any particular reason or is it a tribal issue? I repeat, he did a great deal to create the distinctly sub-optimal state we are now in - both economically and politically. At the very least, I would expect some repentance for that first - and indeed more than a token amount. I donât personally see that one happening regardless but I donât think political defectors really ever go heavily down the repentance route, the angle tends to be more that their former party has changed and moved away from their values
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Post by batman on May 8, 2024 15:25:56 GMT
I repeat, he did a great deal to create the distinctly sub-optimal state we are now in - both economically and politically. At the very least, I would expect some repentance for that first - and indeed more than a token amount. I donât personally see that one happening regardless but I donât think political defectors really ever go heavily down the repentance route, the angle tends to be more that their former party has changed and moved away from their values thatâs often true but sometimes it is a logical progression - for example Alan Howarth was a right wing No Turning Back Tory, who gradually became a much less right wing Tory and then eventually continued to move towards more Labour positions. I donât think he tried to pretend he hadnât changed at all
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Post by stb12 on May 8, 2024 15:32:45 GMT
I donât personally see that one happening regardless but I donât think political defectors really ever go heavily down the repentance route, the angle tends to be more that their former party has changed and moved away from their values thatâs often true but sometimes it is a logical progression - for example Alan Howarth was a right wing No Turning Back Tory, who gradually became a much less right wing Tory and then eventually continued to move towards more Labour positions. I donât think he tried to pretend he hadnât changed at all True, I was maybe generalising a bit, you could throw John Bercow in there as well as someone who clearly did change (albeit his defection came either side of the years as Speaker) It does feel though that most of the defections that have happened from the Tories and Labour (largely during Corbynâs leadership) in recent years have largely been blamed on the parties moving too far to the extremes
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iang
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Post by iang on May 8, 2024 17:10:19 GMT
And a different sort of defector, but George Galloway and the WP have already lost their maybe best known recruit - Monty Panesar is taking a step back from politics (which for his own sake is perhaps no bad thing) www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68976806
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Post by carolus on May 8, 2024 20:57:52 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 9, 2024 9:49:42 GMT
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Post by Rutlander on May 10, 2024 7:41:38 GMT
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 10, 2024 7:49:36 GMT
Seen this posted in a few places now. I thought she left Labour a while ago, so 'joining the Green Party over Gaza' seems like an interesting headline suggesting defection when it is maybe a general progression into Green politics.
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Post by batman on May 10, 2024 8:02:43 GMT
She has actually left the Labour Party twice (she didn't mention this the second time), firstly not long after her term as an MP ended in 2010 and again few months ago, both protests against the general direction of the party. She rejoined when Corbyn became the leader & left when he wasn't. She tried to portray herself as a lifelong Labour member when she left more recently, but this wasn't exactly true as she was out of the party for 4-5 years or so. (I was for about 6 months.)
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Post by Rutlander on May 10, 2024 8:07:09 GMT
Seen this posted in a few places now. I thought she left Labour a while ago, so 'joining the Green Party over Gaza' seems like an interesting headline suggesting defection when it is maybe a general progression into Green politics. Seems she left LAB (over Gaza) in October www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-67182063 but has only now joined GPEW
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