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Post by tonyhill on Mar 1, 2023 18:06:21 GMT
Let me be the first to welcome Jamie Scott's principled move to the Liberal Democrat Council Group in Winchester, and while I'm at it I will also be the first to denounce him as an unprincipled chancer when he moves back to the Conservatives again!
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Post by carolus on Mar 1, 2023 20:57:06 GMT
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Post by Crimson King on Mar 2, 2023 8:31:55 GMT
Bradford, Keighley Central (2023). Zafar Ali, Conservative to Independent. dissapointing that the conservatives of central Keighley have been deprived of their reprasentative
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 2, 2023 11:24:16 GMT
Cumberland, Upperby. Chris Wills, Independent (elected as Labour) to Liberal Democrat. I do wonder what has been happening here, they were only elected as Labour last May after all.
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Post by carolus on Mar 2, 2023 12:17:50 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 2, 2023 12:51:25 GMT
Was I the only one who initially read this as "upperty councillor?"
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 2, 2023 19:38:10 GMT
Let me be the first to welcome Jamie Scott's principled move to the Liberal Democrat Council Group in Winchester, and while I'm at it I will also be the first to denounce him as an unprincipled chancer when he moves back to the Conservatives again! The very definition of the ideal member of the Councillor Party. How on earth could they take him back?
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Post by batman on Mar 2, 2023 21:46:02 GMT
so he stands to be a parliamentary candidate for Labour, fails & defects to an opposing party? Kind of demonstrates that the decision not to select him was right. Although my own party has accepted some people I think shouldn't have been, it doesn't say much for the Lib Dems that they've accepted him.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 2, 2023 21:53:56 GMT
The piece says he has joined.... The Co Operative party...
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 2, 2023 22:09:41 GMT
The piece says he has joined.... The Co Operative party... I assune, after it was pointed out that this endowed Labour membership, he, defending deep socialist principles, joined the Liberal Democrats.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 2, 2023 22:17:47 GMT
The piece says he has joined.... The Co Operative party... Can you join the Co-operative Party on its own? Obviously you can't use it as a vehicle for elected office.
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Post by carolus on Mar 2, 2023 22:46:14 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 2, 2023 22:50:27 GMT
The piece says he has joined.... The Co Operative party... Can you join the Co-operative Party on its own? Obviously you can't use it as a vehicle for elected office. From the Co-op Party website: “You don't have to be a member of the Labour Party to join us, but you can't belong to any other Party, with the exception of the SDLP in Northern Ireland”.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 2, 2023 22:53:04 GMT
Thurrock, Aveley & Uplands (2023). Colin Churchman, Conservative to Independent. Another much-travelled councillor. Elected for the Conservatives in 2004. Either stood down or was deselected in 2008. Stood as 'Aveley Independent' in 2010 and 2011. Elected for UKIP in May 2015. Left UKIP to sit as Independent in July 2015. Rejoined the Conservatives September 2016.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Mar 2, 2023 23:00:47 GMT
Can you join the Co-operative Party on its own? Obviously you can't use it as a vehicle for elected office. From the Co-op Party website: “You don't have to be a member of the Labour Party to join us, but you can't belong to any other Party, with the exception of the SDLP in Northern Ireland”. Have there ever been any SDLP/Co-op candidates in elections?
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 2, 2023 23:06:38 GMT
From the Co-op Party website: “You don't have to be a member of the Labour Party to join us, but you can't belong to any other Party, with the exception of the SDLP in Northern Ireland”. Have there ever been any SDLP/Co-op candidates in elections? I know John Hume was a member of the Co-op Party, but whether he ever used the description even at local council level I don’t know.
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Post by La Fontaine on Mar 2, 2023 23:52:51 GMT
Have there ever been any SDLP/Co-op candidates in elections? I know John Hume was a member of the Co-op Party, but whether he ever used the description even at local council level I don’t know. The membership database was held in my office until 2006. He wasn't a member up till then.
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Post by timmullen1 on Mar 3, 2023 9:58:28 GMT
I know John Hume was a member of the Co-op Party, but whether he ever used the description even at local council level I don’t know. The membership database was held in my office until 2006. He wasn't a member up till then. Possibly didn’t continue, but somewhere between 92, George Stevenson succeeding Jack Ashley, and 96 when I became housebound, he had his membership card when he spoke at North Staffordshire and South Cheshire Party’s annual dinner.
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Post by wallington on Mar 3, 2023 11:04:51 GMT
I think it's a shame the Co-Operative party doesn't allow you to be a member of any other party than Labour. I understand the history of the Co-Operative party, but Co-operatism isn't necessarily a centre left ideology, and it could easily make sense for a paternalistic Conservative, a social liberal or a Green to agree with the aims, but I guess if they were to allow other party members to use the Co-Operative Party badge in some way, Labour would just end the agreement with them.
Edit: Even the Labour MPs seem to cross the internal spectrum of the party, from right leaning Labour MPs like Steve Reed to left leaning MPs like Lloyd Russell Moyle.
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 3, 2023 11:11:39 GMT
Yes, the Co-Op Party has acquired a "right wing" reputation with some on the Labour left but this may be as much vibes as reality.
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