Tony Otim
Green
Suffering from Brexistential Despair
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 7, 2018 15:55:12 GMT
Strong possibility of nobody reaching the quota here, SNP seem too far away and Conservatives would need all the Independent and Lib Dem transfers. Very good showing by the Greens. Our vote share was actually a couple of points down I think, but moving up to 4th from 7th is encouraging- keeps us in the mix for a seat next time.
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Post by robbienicoll on Dec 7, 2018 15:59:32 GMT
Strong possibility of nobody reaching the quota here, SNP seem too far away and Conservatives would need all the Independent and Lib Dem transfers. Very good showing by the Greens. Our vote share was actually a couple of points down I think, but moving up to 4th from 7th is encouraging- keeps us in the mix for a seat next time. Particularly for parties outside of the top two or three, position can sometimes matter more than vote share in STV. Looking at how well you did in the later transfer stages shows that there's definite potential there in the future.
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cogload
Lib Dem
I jumped in the river and what did I see...
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Post by cogload on Dec 7, 2018 16:00:33 GMT
That one was a bit shite
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Dec 7, 2018 16:07:55 GMT
I think it's abundantly obvious (if it wasn't already) that our strength in this area came from having an amazing MP and not any prowess when it comes to actual campaigning.
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Chris from Brum
Lib Dem
What I need is a strong drink and a peer group.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 7, 2018 16:08:55 GMT
I think it's abundantly obvious (if it wasn't already) that our strength in this area came from having an amazing MP and not any prowess when it comes to actual campaigning. Sadly, having a gobshite for an MP doesn't seem to have hurt the SNP.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 7, 2018 16:46:59 GMT
Stage 1 result SNP 1318 Con 1037 Ind Greene 622 Green 359 Lib Dem 320 Lab 174 Ind Davis 131 Ukip 16 Libertarian 8 Greene beating the Greens.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2018 17:18:28 GMT
Totally off-topic, but ...
I've come across many examples of people being registered in two Polling Districts (where they live close to PD boundaries) but has anyone ever come voters registered in three adjoining PDs?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2018 17:20:09 GMT
Whilst we wait for stage 4, Libertarian (8) and UKIP (18) transfers were as follows: SNP received 2 from both Con received 1 from Libertarians and 5 from UKIP Ind (Greene) received 2 from Libertarians and 3 from UKIP Greens got none from either Lib Dems got 2 from UKIPLabour got 1 from UKIP Ind (Davis) got 1 from both First preference percentages: SNP - 33.1% Con - 26.0% Ind (Greene) - 15.6% Green - 9.0% LD - 8.0% Lab - 4.4% Ind (Davis) - 3.3% UKIP - 0.4% Libertarian - 0.2% 11% of UKIP preferences transfer to Lib Dems. Don't you just love the coherence of the electorate?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2018 17:30:09 GMT
Stage 1 result SNP 1318 Con 1037 Ind Greene 622 Green 359 Lib Dem 320 Lab 174 Ind Davis 131 Ukip 16 Libertarian 8 Greene beating the Greens. e comes before s; basic alphabet.
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iain
Lib Dem
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Post by iain on Dec 7, 2018 19:13:34 GMT
I think it's abundantly obvious (if it wasn't already) that our strength in this area came from having an amazing MP and not any prowess when it comes to actual campaigning. Nonsense. For one thing, our strength in the area far pre-dates Charles Kennedy - excepting the period 1945-64 and 2015 we have always had representation in the Highlands since the formation of the Liberal Party. We also had full Liberal / Alliance / Lib Dem representation in all of 1966, 1983, 1987, 1992, 2005 and 2010. For another thing, we gained a council seat in this constituency in Caol & Mallaig in April this year. Prior to 2017 we’d never even stood there.
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Post by edgbaston on Dec 7, 2018 19:27:44 GMT
Very disappointing: Conservative success in the highland areas is vital to the future of unionism. This one was always going to be a long shot for us, don't forget this ward is part of the SNP's second safest Westminster seats and they won the most votes in the 2017 locals. Our vote held up well despite the drop in turnout and I think it was a fairly good result all things considered. Agreed, but you need to start ‘winning here’ as the Lib Dems use to say.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 7, 2018 20:10:14 GMT
Hmm, 25 polling stations and just 47 electors in the smallest polling district. Are both of those records? My local Polling Station is probably smaller than that tbh. And isn’t there one somewhere (can’t remember where) that is in a caravan? Yes. Been to it on a polling day. Island of Mull. In a private house detached garage. Only 3-electors. Householder was the polling clerk. The neighbours were voters. They had breakfast together opened up voted and then sat playing records and cards until 10pm when the police car collected the box.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 7, 2018 20:26:27 GMT
WESTER ROSS
That was an excellent showing by a new Conservative in what has been poor territory for us and when frankly on a national level we are proving to be a laughing stock. He campaigned very hard and for a long period and it shows well. This is now seriously on for us especially if there is no well-known independent. And on Independents i am delighted to be proved wrong about the dreadful Davis. She did very badly I am delighted to see and the LDs had an awful showing in an area they so recently dominated. Fine result. SNP know they have a fight on their hands now.
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J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 7, 2018 20:36:26 GMT
Totally off-topic, but ... I've come across many examples of people being registered in two Polling Districts (where they live close to PD boundaries) but has anyone ever come voters registered in three adjoining PDs? I found a couple registered twice in the same polling district, once for each road their house faced. const: Scarborouh & Whitby pd: 49 whitby yy ward: whitby west parish: whitby (west cliff ward) sheet: 002414 date: 10th October 1950 Upgang Lane ... 1679 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1680 Booth Fred, Glensyde Valley Road ... 1688 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1689 Booth Fred, Glensyde
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 7, 2018 20:37:17 GMT
My local Polling Station is probably smaller than that tbh. And isn’t there one somewhere (can’t remember where) that is in a caravan? Yes. Been to it on a polling day. Island of Mull. In a private house detached garage. Only 3-electors. Householder was the polling clerk. The neighbours were voters. They had breakfast together opened up voted and then sat playing records and cards until 10pm when the police car collected the box. I challenge anyone to come up with a misleading barchart from that electorate.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 7, 2018 20:47:23 GMT
Now that he's dead, I can tell you that in the mid-1990s I found Sir Edward Du Cann on the electoral register in the old Victoria ward of Westminster - twice. His house was on a street corner, and had a number on both, and he'd registered to vote at both addresses.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2018 20:48:21 GMT
Totally off-topic, but ... I've come across many examples of people being registered in two Polling Districts (where they live close to PD boundaries) but has anyone ever come voters registered in three adjoining PDs? I found a couple registered twice in the same polling district, once for each road their house faced. const: Scarborouh & Whitby pd: 49 whitby yy ward: whitby west parish: whitby (west cliff ward) sheet: 002414 date: 10th October 1950 Upgang Lane ... 1679 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1680 Booth Fred, Glensyde Valley Road ... 1688 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1689 Booth Fred, Glensyde You have access to electoral registers from 1950 !
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2018 20:50:04 GMT
Now that he's dead, I can tell you that in the mid-1990s I found Sir Edward Du Cann on the electoral register in the old Victoria ward of Westminster - twice. His house was on a street corner, and had a number on both, and he'd registered to vote at both addresses. If he was "normally resident" at both addresses then that may have been in order? Exercising both votes, however ...
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 7, 2018 20:50:29 GMT
Totally off-topic, but ... I've come across many examples of people being registered in two Polling Districts (where they live close to PD boundaries) but has anyone ever come voters registered in three adjoining PDs? I found a couple registered twice in the same polling district, once for each road their house faced. const: Scarborouh & Whitby pd: 49 whitby yy ward: whitby west parish: whitby (west cliff ward) sheet: 002414 date: 10th October 1950 Upgang Lane ... 1679 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1680 Booth Fred, Glensyde Valley Road ... 1688 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1689 Booth Fred, Glensyde I don't suppose Fred and Alice ever imagined that this level of fame would be theirs.
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J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 7, 2018 21:01:59 GMT
I found a couple registered twice in the same polling district, once for each road their house faced. const: Scarborouh & Whitby pd: 49 whitby yy ward: whitby west parish: whitby (west cliff ward) sheet: 002414 date: 10th October 1950 Upgang Lane ... 1679 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1680 Booth Fred, Glensyde Valley Road ... 1688 Booth Alice, Glensyde 1689 Booth Fred, Glensyde You have access to electoral registers from 1950 ! Doesn't everybody? Part of my Whitby digitisation project.
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