The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 10, 2024 15:33:59 GMT
This may be a reference to Hannah Blythyn? I don't think that actually involved any defecting, though.
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Post by Penddu on Jul 10, 2024 17:02:23 GMT
This may be a reference to Hannah Blythyn? I don't think that actually involved any defecting, though. I put this in wrong thread... It should have been in Welsh Politics thread... Where Vaughan Gething's warmth and sincerity has been discussed earlier...
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binky
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Post by binky on Jul 19, 2024 16:15:05 GMT
Braverman?
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Post by bigfatron on Jul 19, 2024 16:46:50 GMT
Any reason to post this at this particular time? Is something rumoured?
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Post by andrewp on Jul 19, 2024 16:50:25 GMT
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 19, 2024 17:03:46 GMT
Called it a while ago. She has been laying the ground for a while.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 19, 2024 17:06:04 GMT
There's a possibility that some Tories still don't fully realise just how shrunken and marginalised they are, and in the coming months the new reality sends Suella etc to Reform, allowing the moderates and largely sane Conservative Party to continue as the mainstream centre right option while Reform just becomes the holding pen for cuckoo-bananas weirdos and extremists.
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Post by swanarcadian on Jul 19, 2024 17:06:47 GMT
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ilerda
Conservative
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Post by ilerda on Jul 19, 2024 20:48:24 GMT
History would suggest that means it’s almost certainly true then.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 19, 2024 22:38:37 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jul 19, 2024 22:52:54 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect. I hope she doesn't defect. The chances of her and Farage clashing are extremely high.
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CatholicLeft
Labour
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 19, 2024 23:29:32 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect. Really? She can be a voice of the right in the most successful campaigning party in the democratic world, which always bounces back, or join a limited company where the leader is appointed by a single person. Not happening.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 20, 2024 12:35:44 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect. We have sparred on and off for years. I confess to not really understanding you or your world view at all. May I very politely put it to you that you are not and have never been 'a Tory'. There is nothing about you that is in any many 'Tory'. As to Suella I believe you to be profoundly incorrect in both respects. She has a lot to gain by remaining in the Conservatives, fighting her corner with vigour, and expanding it. Many members who are important like her. In Reform whe would clash with Farage and with the culture unless, he let her carve out a position and mould the party in her own image. He might because of his age and his other interests? And he might like her or even fancy her?
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 20, 2024 13:54:40 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect. Really? She can be a voice of the right in the most successful campaigning party in the democratic world, which always bounces back, or join a limited company where the leader is appointed by a single person. Not happening. I've known Suella longer than her husband (as some wag said) and I endorse this message.
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jul 20, 2024 14:38:54 GMT
I'm a Tory, and I won't defect, but Suella has a lot to gain by defecting. First and foremost monetarily, via the pro-Reform GBN and X. Whereas, politically she has only ignominy to gain by remaining. If she's smart, she'll defect. I spot a tiny flaw in this plan...
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Post by aargauer on Jul 20, 2024 19:49:13 GMT
Really? She can be a voice of the right in the most successful campaigning party in the democratic world, which always bounces back, or join a limited company where the leader is appointed by a single person. Not happening. I've known Suella longer than her husband (as some wag said) and I endorse this message. I don't know her, but once talked to her 1:2:1 for about half an hour (she basically couldn't be arsed to do any canvassing) and she came across as totally unhinged.
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 20, 2024 19:58:18 GMT
I've known Suella longer than her husband (as some wag said) and I endorse this message. I don't know her, but once talked to her 1:2:1 for about half an hour (she basically couldn't be arsed to do any canvassing) and she came across as totally unhinged. The beauty of being a political opponent to people in that kind of position is that they don't have any advantage of playing the game with you. NB when I first stood against her it was her first election, and I saw nothing on a one to one level that changed between first election and third, which seriously points to what change has taken place being completely cosmetic and for the benefit of those who it works for.
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andrea
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Post by andrea on Jul 23, 2024 19:08:03 GMT
Labour to Independent after having the whip suspend for having voted for the SNP's amendment of 2 child cap:
Apsana Begum Richard Burgon Ian Byrne Imran Hussain Rebecca Long Bailey John McDonnell Zarah Sultana
Their status will be reviewed after 6 months
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Post by mrsir on Jul 23, 2024 19:09:28 GMT
Surprised that Bell Ribeiro-Addy isn’t there. She is seen as more radical than RLB or Hussain anyway.
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jamie
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Post by jamie on Jul 23, 2024 19:14:55 GMT
7 Labour MPs suspended for voting for Labour’s policy in 6 months time?
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