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Post by andrea on Mar 27, 2012 19:52:41 GMT
Can you explain what this is because I don't want to sign up to some Facebook app, least of all a Guardian one It's the Guardian's report from the campaign trail which is all about Galloway, how well Gallowayis doing, how big his last election rally was, how is seen as a superstar by many Muslims, how even the Singh's former campaign manager is voting for him, how Labour had to draft "heavyweights such as Skinner, Cooper and Balls", how happy the Tory lady is that he's in the race, how the Mirpur's big family connections system is ruining Bradford politics giving mediocre councillors after mediocre cllrs, all selected through thanks to their community links But there's the white old retired couple who think Bradford is now crap but will vote Labour because they have always done so. www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/27/george-galloway-bradford-west-byelection?newsfeed=trueLooking at Labour activists online, I don't see the "oh please, come to help in Bradford. We need every possible vote" rallying cries you could see for Oldham East or Inverclyde. Maybe it's because many are busy with their local election campaign or they are really feeling quite comfortable. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 27, 2012 19:55:25 GMT
"they despair of the state Bradford is in after almost 30 years of uninterrupted Labour rule" - is that supposed to mean 30 years of almost uninterrupted Labour rule? I think even that would be inaccurate
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2012 19:59:14 GMT
ha ha facts are something else
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 27, 2012 20:02:36 GMT
IIRC the council went majority Tory for a while between 1988-90.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 27, 2012 20:05:42 GMT
Well I hadn't myself realised it was as long as that but knew that it had been so for a few years recently and of course Eric Pickles ran the council from 1988-90 (the Bishop is correct I think they gained control either trhough a by-election or possibly a defection
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 27, 2012 20:33:35 GMT
May have been both, actually.......
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 27, 2012 20:35:43 GMT
So far as I can tell the Leaders of Bradford City Council have been:
John Singleton (C) April 1974 – May 1979
Brian Womersley (C) May 1979 – May 1980
Derek Smith (Lab) May 1980 – May 1982
Tom Hall (C) May 1982 – May 1984
Ronnie Farley (C) ? 1984 – May 1986
Phil Beeley (Lab) May 1986 – May 1988
Eric Pickles (C) May 1988 – May 1990
Phil Beeley (Lab) May 1990 – May 1992
Gerry Sutcliffe (Lab) May 1992 – June 1994
Tony Cairns (Lab) June 1994 – May 1999
Ian Greenwood (Lab) May 1999 – May 2000
Margaret Eaton (C) May 2000 – May 2006
Kris Hopkins (C) May 2006 – May 2010
Ian Greenwood (Lab) since May 2010
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Post by piperdave on Mar 27, 2012 20:48:08 GMT
I'm sure I'm not the only one to look with a degree of incredulity on the information that George Galloway's home address is "in the Bradford West constituency". A home address is a home address, not a temporary home rented immediately before an election. Galloway would have had to have a home address in Scotland in order to stand for Glasgow in the Scottish Parliament election last year. Coming a bit late to the party on this one but there is no residency requirement to stand in the Scottish Parliament elections. Several of the smaller parties have made up their lists with residents of England at every election. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 27, 2012 21:43:30 GMT
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 27, 2012 23:38:51 GMT
I doubt it will cause any confusion amongst his target voters who will be used to seeing numbers against the name of any candidate who is seriously asking for their support. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 28, 2012 9:25:36 GMT
The comments on here amused me twitter.com/#!/georgegalloway/status/184682624541929473/photo/1 |
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Post by Pimpernal on Mar 28, 2012 9:45:22 GMT
Perhaps we should have an award for 'most psephologically ill-informed newspaper article'! sadly, I'm not sure that article would actually win!  |
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Post by Crimson King on Mar 28, 2012 14:15:50 GMT
May have been both, actually....... My memory may be faulty but I think Pickles deposed the then tory leader after the council elections and took control using the Mayors casting vote, there were 2 succesive byelections in Odsal Ward shortly after |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 28, 2012 14:18:16 GMT
There was also a Labour/Tory defection at some point round then - University ward?? Gave Pickles a clear overall majority for a while - until 1990  |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 28, 2012 15:05:41 GMT
And we have some idiot in the Grauniad talking about "30 years uninterrupted Labour rule". Perhaps we should have an award for 'most psephologically ill-informed newspaper article'! I don't know the details of the control (although I seem to recall it provoked whining about how it was secured), but Pickles's Bradford was a fairly high profile administration in its time, and subsequently was a standard example of a Conservative council clashing with a Conservative Westminster government. |
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Post by stepney on Mar 28, 2012 15:20:02 GMT
And we have some idiot in the Grauniad talking about "30 years uninterrupted Labour rule". Perhaps we should have an award for 'most psephologically ill-informed newspaper article'! I don't know the details of the control (although I seem to recall it provoked whining about how it was secured), but Pickles's Bradford was a fairly high profile administration in its time, and subsequently was a standard example of a Conservative council clashing with a Conservative Westminster government. A fair and balanced look (ahem!) at the Pickles administration. Although useless as an impartial account, it at least puts events into order and names to faces etc. |
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Post by historian1986 on Mar 28, 2012 18:28:21 GMT
There was also a Labour/Tory defection at some point round then - University ward?? Gave Pickles a clear overall majority for a while - until 1990 The member who defected from Labour to the Tories is none other than Mohammed Riaz, the 2010 Conservative candidate in Bradford East. FYI current Clayton councillor Elaine Byrom gained Odsal ward from Labour back in 1988 to enable the Conservatives to gain full control. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2012 20:53:16 GMT
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 28, 2012 20:54:39 GMT
[quote author=ianrobo board=byelection thread=10 post=2005 think a lot of hype and no substance[/quote] Aye, that's George Galloway summed up  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2012 20:55:43 GMT
apparently according to Mark, the odds were slashed because of one big bet ...
Muslims not allowed to bet of course, can the candidate ?
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