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Post by carlton43 on Jul 22, 2018 9:50:39 GMT
And that might not have been wise in itself Iain! Common Abuse, guv and in common usage for decades by Private Eye. Yes. Of course. But it was the example set to others within the context! One never knows what may come out of a vigorous ruck. |
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J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 22, 2018 10:20:37 GMT
Has anyone noticed that both India and Pakistan seem to pluralise "general election" to "general elections" when talking of a single general election? This minor detail does baffle me. I half read that as Pakistan has a generals election.  |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 22, 2018 10:31:00 GMT
Jinnah's hypocritical treatment of his daughter was rather unpleasant.
Knew his malts, though.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 22, 2018 10:51:13 GMT
Jinnah's hypocritical treatment of his daughter was rather unpleasant. Knew his malts, though. Jinnah's treatment of his daughter is much exaggerated, and certainly by the time he died they had been reconciled. The issue which led to their strained relationship was her marriage to a non-Muslim, but even then he never disowned her. Jinnah himself married a non-Muslim. His second wife was a Parsi who converted after marrying, in the face of ostracism from her family. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 22, 2018 11:03:46 GMT
Jinnah's treatment of his daughter is much exaggerated, and certainly by the time he died they had been reconciled. The issue which led to their strained relationship was her marriage to a non-Muslim, but even then he never disowned her. Jinnah himself married a non-Muslim. His second wife was a Parsi who converted after marrying, in the face of ostracism from her family. Quite. He was quite the hypocrite. Hence why he also knew his malts... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 22, 2018 20:57:39 GMT
Pakistan was never workable - it was an intellectual project that became irreversible political reality before any of its inherent contradictions were even discussed, let alone resolved - but only became ungovernable during the Zia decade.
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Post by swanarcadian on Jul 22, 2018 21:15:21 GMT
From the 1982 film Gandhi (Jinnah is portrayed by the one smoking near the start):
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 23, 2018 11:06:33 GMT
Has anyone noticed that both India and Pakistan seem to pluralise "general election" to "general elections" when talking of a single general election? This minor detail does baffle me. I hadn't noticed that. The usage suggests that they conceptualise their general elections as being a series of discrete elections which happen on the same day, rather than being a single election which has local candidates (which is the way the overwhelming majority of Brits think of them). Alternatively, it could be a by-product of grammatical conventions that are common in Indian languages filtering into their usage of English. |
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Post by swanarcadian on Jul 23, 2018 17:06:25 GMT
Interesting poll result above at the time of posting - only the PPP have attracted votes (from an assortment of Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and one Conservative forum member). I suppose it is particularly difficult for this forum to imagine themselves as citizens of a country in which religion plays an integral part in most aspects of life - the largest party in the parliament is the Pakistan Muslim League.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 23, 2018 21:22:13 GMT
Programme on BBC4 at the moment about Pakistani politics.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 24, 2018 1:14:52 GMT
Made for my own reference, but why not share it? Some recent electoral patterns in Karachi:  |
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Post by yellowperil on Jul 24, 2018 7:08:52 GMT
Interesting poll result above at the time of posting - only the PPP have attracted votes (from an assortment of Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and one Conservative forum member). I suppose it is particularly difficult for this forum to imagine themselves as citizens of a country in which religion plays an integral part in most aspects of life - the largest party in the parliament is the Pakistan Muslim League. Yes I expect many of us here would have wanted a none of the above button, and at best went for PPP as the least worst option |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 24, 2018 14:07:36 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 24, 2018 21:13:37 GMT
Polls will close at six local time (that's two here) and we should have a good picture of the results by around about eleven (seven here). Results will then be finalised the day after. It is really not at all clear what's going to happen.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2018 11:31:04 GMT
Polls will close at six local time (that's two here) and we should have a good picture of the results by around about eleven (seven here). Results will then be finalised the day after. It is really not at all clear what's going to happen. To my surprise, the Graun have a live blog. 31 dead in various attacks, rather grim. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2018 11:51:28 GMT
If you look at the post at 12:12, it appears to suggest that they are different polling stations for different genders...
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 25, 2018 12:52:54 GMT
Looks like middle class snobbery in relation to the plebs voting in elections isn’t just confined to the West.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 25, 2018 13:13:18 GMT
Polls have closed.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 25, 2018 14:18:54 GMT
They're often pretty sketchy and there's not much detail from some, but various exit polls suggest a PTI lead.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jul 25, 2018 17:35:45 GMT
They're often pretty sketchy and there's not much detail from some, but various exit polls suggest a PTI lead. One of the Sky channels is showing it, I have not a clue as to what is going on but the numbers being flashed up suggest a disaster for the PPP and the PTI and Fianna Nawaz not being far off each other. |
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