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Post by greenchristian on Nov 11, 2019 23:14:40 GMT
The interesting thing to see will be where the crashing Brexit party vote goes. It may not all go where it's supposed to...but time will tell. See also other arrangements where parties stand aside... Indeed. Discussion in the Green Room about the benefits of such arrangements has been very much on the sceptical side. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 11, 2019 23:17:31 GMT
See also other arrangements where parties stand aside... Indeed. Discussion in the Green Room about the benefits of such arrangements has been very much on the sceptical side. Interesting. Although you might benefit in some areas where the BXP don't stand as an anti-establishment channel. That in turn depends on how loudly you trumpet the Remain Alliance thing though. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 12, 2019 9:31:23 GMT
The interesting thing to see will be where the crashing Brexit party vote goes. It may not all go where it's supposed to...but time will tell. See also other arrangements where parties stand aside... As far as the Remain Alliance goes, in individual seats obviously one party's vote will never transfer completely to the other. I think in some of the chosen seats this will break in favour of the alliance party and in some it won't. There's also probably an added bonus in terms of the credibility of the challenge for the seat if other parties have stood down for you. Nationally there are clearly some voters who like the idea of parties working together and this may give both Lib Dems and Greens a small boost. On the other hand there are those who dislike the idea of an electoral stitch up or dislike the other party so much that it will deter them from voting for their original party. How all those factors add up is anyone's guess at this point. The net benefit or harm will probably be marginal, but the election could be decided in the margins. |
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Post by cogload on Nov 16, 2019 20:55:04 GMT
That's a bit shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:56:18 GMT
Interesting to see Lib Dems down 5 here Deltapoll but doing rather well in constituency polls. Tactical voting much...
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 16, 2019 20:58:52 GMT
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 16, 2019 20:59:57 GMT
Interesting to see Lib Dems down 5 here Deltapoll but doing rather well in constituency polls. Tactical voting much... That's what I'm hoping, but much more of this and it'll feed through to the target seats too. |
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Post by jamie on Nov 16, 2019 21:01:03 GMT
Interesting to see Lib Dems down 5 here Deltapoll but doing rather well in constituency polls. Tactical voting much... Labour supporters tactically voting Lib Dem in Labour held Kensington? |
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 16, 2019 21:06:57 GMT
Apparently we (LD) are on 13% with “blue collar workers”, but 10% with the middle class. That seems to be, putting it generously, a peculiar finding
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Post by mrhell on Nov 16, 2019 21:59:42 GMT
That poll could be better.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Nov 16, 2019 22:00:09 GMT
Smells like an outlier, but we shall see.
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Post by tonygreaves on Nov 16, 2019 22:14:06 GMT
I hope it's a wake-up call for the LD party managers.
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Post by Vibe on Nov 16, 2019 22:16:41 GMT
I hope it's a wake-up call for the LD party managers. what do you suggest they need to when thy wake up? I am surprised at their decline in the polls. I think this is the smaller parties being shafted by FPTP. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 16, 2019 23:00:36 GMT
I hope it's a wake-up call for the LD party managers. We have ... managers ! ?  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 16, 2019 23:35:20 GMT
That sort of massive shift over a few days without an obvious cause would generally be a sampling issue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 23:38:48 GMT
That sort of massive shift over a few days without an obvious cause would generally be a sampling issue. its difficult to know when the poll was done but since the 9th we've had the brexit party standing down which was big news and Labour's policy announcement yesterday so there are current affairs that might have an impact |
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Post by mike on Nov 16, 2019 23:45:30 GMT
This poll doesn't make Jo Swinson's claim that she could become prime minister look very credible.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 17, 2019 0:02:35 GMT
That sort of massive shift over a few days without an obvious cause would generally be a sampling issue. its difficult to know when the poll was done but since the 9th we've had the brexit party standing down which was big news and Labour's policy announcement yesterday so there are current affairs that might have an impact It's the specifics that's the issue: Con +4, LDem -5. Odd. And odd usually means 'bad sample'. Though with British polling who knows. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 17, 2019 11:49:30 GMT
This poll apparently shows a big jump in Johnson's personal rating as well.
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Post by tonygreaves on Nov 17, 2019 19:41:19 GMT
I hope it's a wake-up call for the LD party managers. We have ... managers ! ? I distinguish the people "running the campaign" form the political leadership. |
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