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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 26, 2020 12:58:40 GMT
Your mistaking Dublin West with Dublin Mid West.. Paul Donnelly (SF) was not far off in 2016. How dud I misread that? Duly deleted. It's an easy mistake to make and a bizarre constituency name. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 26, 2020 13:03:31 GMT
One of the features of the November by-elections was that FG got overhauled on transfers (by Labour in Wexford but also by SF in Cork). Combine that with FG running far too many candidates for ~20% of the vote and a "get them out" mood and something very nasty may be in store. An apt time to remind less frequent observers of Irish political history of Labour and FG's spectacular contribution to psephology: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_(Amendment)_Act_1974Yikes at Leitrim in the previous map. Split three ways!? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 26, 2020 14:51:23 GMT
Yikes at Leitrim in the previous map. Split three ways!? Marvel at what happens when you try to design a gerrymander reliant on the idea that Irish people won't ever want to vote for Fianna Fail. Top fact though - Tully was injured at, of all things, the assassination of Sadat. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 26, 2020 16:10:27 GMT
Yikes at Leitrim in the previous map. Split three ways!? Marvel at what happens when you try to design a gerrymander reliant on the idea that Irish people won't ever want to vote for Fianna Fail. No, it's the map before the Tullymander that did that! |
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Post by obsie on Jan 26, 2020 19:14:17 GMT
ireland.isidewith.com/My results: 87% Social Democrats 84% Green Party 82% Labour 81% Sinn Fein 81% Fianna Fail 75% Fine Gael Ironic because the average SocDem activist makes Paul Mason and Oliver Kamm look like members of Catholic Action. |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 26, 2020 19:36:23 GMT
ireland.isidewith.com/My results: 87% Social Democrats 84% Green Party 82% Labour 81% Sinn Fein 81% Fianna Fail 75% Fine Gael Ironic because the average SocDem activist makes Paul Mason and Oliver Kamm look like members of Catholic Action. Goes to show that the definitions of political ideology are economic rather than fashion. |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 26, 2020 21:45:16 GMT
My results from that quiz were:
87% Green
86% Sinn Fein
85% Social Democrats
85% Labour
75% Fianna Fail
67% Fine Gael
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jan 27, 2020 19:50:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 21:57:28 GMT
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Post by relique on Jan 27, 2020 22:20:10 GMT
I must say, I'm watching the leader's debate and my most frequent comment is: "oh ! that's how you pronounce THAT word !"
Post-Scriptum: and also, journalists who study their subject exist in the world ? That's quite new to me. French journalists are quite bad.
Post-post... : I must say, on the subject of the housing crisis, as an economist quite well versed in urban economics, I'm appalled that no leader seems to point that the problem in Ireland is that it's concentrating lot of tech giants, becoming a new San Francisco, where people with $100,000 a year have trouble finding accomodation. These tech giants have more and more very highly paid workers, they are occupying a lot of space, reducing the supply and increasing the (rich) demand, creating quite a simple supply/demand problem...
And all answers are about "supply", and no one thinks that being a tax haven for big tech giants IS the problem, and that raising taxes for them (or making them pay their taxes) would either levy enough money to build new houses or make them leave to free a lot more space...
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jan 28, 2020 1:04:17 GMT
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 28, 2020 6:18:14 GMT
![]()   It goes bad to worse for FG.. campaign has been lurching from one controversy to the other. Who does she think she is, Mary O’Rourke? |
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Post by obsie on Jan 28, 2020 14:43:40 GMT
Noone would be the Vicar of Bray if only she had a bit more intelligence. Awful person.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 15:04:13 GMT
![]() It goes bad to worse for FG.. campaign has been lurching from one controversy to the other. "illness" "wooden and lacking in empathy" "special/ that word" implying that autistic might, in itself, be an offensive description of somebody That is a long parade of awfulness from start to finish. |
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Post by obsie on Jan 28, 2020 15:05:09 GMT
I must say, I'm watching the leader's debate and my most frequent comment is: "oh ! that's how you pronounce THAT word !"
Post-Scriptum: and also, journalists who study their subject exist in the world ? That's quite new to me. French journalists are quite bad.
Post-post... : I must say, on the subject of the housing crisis, as an economist quite well versed in urban economics, I'm appalled that no leader seems to point that the problem in Ireland is that it's concentrating lot of tech giants, becoming a new San Francisco, where people with $100,000 a year have trouble finding accomodation. These tech giants have more and more very highly paid workers, they are occupying a lot of space, reducing the supply and increasing the (rich) demand, creating quite a simple supply/demand problem...
And all answers are about "supply", and no one thinks that being a tax haven for big tech giants IS the problem, and that raising taxes for them (or making them pay their taxes) would either levy enough money to build new houses or make them leave to free a lot more space...
If you're a small, geographically-peripheral country with a history of high unemployment whose nearest neighbour and physical landbridge to the European mainland is currently trying to isolate itself from its neighbours (and by extension isolate you) then forcing existing large employers to leave is not a wise strategy.
But other than that, your comments about the current government trying to turn the country into a clone of the Bay Area and the consequences of that strategy is spot on. |
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Post by obsie on Jan 28, 2020 15:07:01 GMT
![]() It goes bad to worse for FG.. campaign has been lurching from one controversy to the other. Who does she think she is, Mary O’Rourke? Compared with Noone, Mammy O'Rourke is an intellectual colossus. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 15:21:39 GMT
what an idiot
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Post by relique on Jan 28, 2020 15:46:03 GMT
I must say, I'm watching the leader's debate and my most frequent comment is: "oh ! that's how you pronounce THAT word !"
Post-Scriptum: and also, journalists who study their subject exist in the world ? That's quite new to me. French journalists are quite bad.
Post-post... : I must say, on the subject of the housing crisis, as an economist quite well versed in urban economics, I'm appalled that no leader seems to point that the problem in Ireland is that it's concentrating lot of tech giants, becoming a new San Francisco, where people with $100,000 a year have trouble finding accomodation. These tech giants have more and more very highly paid workers, they are occupying a lot of space, reducing the supply and increasing the (rich) demand, creating quite a simple supply/demand problem...
And all answers are about "supply", and no one thinks that being a tax haven for big tech giants IS the problem, and that raising taxes for them (or making them pay their taxes) would either levy enough money to build new houses or make them leave to free a lot more space...
If you're a small, geographically-peripheral country with a history of high unemployment whose nearest neighbour and physical landbridge to the European mainland is currently trying to isolate itself from its neighbours (and by extension isolate you) then forcing existing large employers to leave is not a wise strategy.
But other than that, your comments about the current government trying to turn the country into a clone of the Bay Area and the consequences of that strategy is spot on. I quite understand how it's not a real political strategy to say "out with the jobs", but the problem with those companies is the too high concentration of highly paid jobs. Ireland needs companies with blue-collar and engineers, not just "creative-tech" people coming from all over Europe (and probably not giving a shit about the country's future).
I mean... When I listened to Micheal Martin say "Ireland is an open economy, focused on exports", I just wanted to shout at my computer "can anyone translate that into 'tax haven' ?".
I do hope Ireland will transform into something else than just leeching on to continental-europe tech-economic activites being based in Dublin and show a bit more solidarity to the peoples of continental Europe which try also to fund hospitals and so on with taxes... (That is also one of the reason why I laugh at the face of "left"-leaning british people telling me how the EU is the place for solidarity, social progress etc... that's just wrong on so many levels that I'm quite envious of Brexit)
And again, it'll be probably for the better for irish housing...
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jan 28, 2020 19:36:33 GMT
Small sample size.. but interesting nonetheless. SD's will be thrilled polling 12%.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 29, 2020 13:50:17 GMT
If you're a small, geographically-peripheral country with a history of high unemployment whose nearest neighbour and physical landbridge to the European mainland is currently trying to isolate itself from its neighbours (and by extension isolate you) then forcing existing large employers to leave is not a wise strategy.
But other than that, your comments about the current government trying to turn the country into a clone of the Bay Area and the consequences of that strategy is spot on. I quite understand how it's not a real political strategy to say "out with the jobs", but the problem with those companies is the too high concentration of highly paid jobs. Ireland needs companies with blue-collar and engineers, not just "creative-tech" people coming from all over Europe (and probably not giving a shit about the country's future).
I mean... When I listened to Micheal Martin say "Ireland is an open economy, focused on exports", I just wanted to shout at my computer "can anyone translate that into 'tax haven' ?".
I do hope Ireland will transform into something else than just leeching on to continental-europe tech-economic activites being based in Dublin and show a bit more solidarity to the peoples of continental Europe which try also to fund hospitals and so on with taxes... (That is also one of the reason why I laugh at the face of "left"-leaning british people telling me how the EU is the place for solidarity, social progress etc... that's just wrong on so many levels that I'm quite envious of Brexit)
And again, it'll be probably for the better for irish housing... Said countries could do with actually collecting the tax, as Ireland does. Neither Ireland nor its tax regime have any effect on the laxity of revenue collection in the likes of Greece or Italy. Ireland also has nothing to do with the long-standing problems in France, with its roughly 1000 year headstart as an independent country and status as an economic superpower for much of that. If these countries want to fund their hospitals and so on with taxes, they should follow Ireland's lead and actually collect it efficiently. The suggestion that Ireland is where it is because it is a mere tax haven is a hoary old canard. Ireland boomed partly because, even in its poorer days, it focussed heavily on education. Hence why it continues to do better than various other EU states with even lower corporation tax rates, including Bulgaria (which in 1980 had a higher GDP per capita than Ireland). |
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