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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 15, 2020 9:59:22 GMT
ireland.isidewith.com/My results: 87% Social Democrats 84% Green Party 82% Labour 81% Sinn Fein 81% Fianna Fail 75% Fine Gael To my surprise I got a three-way tie on 77% between Fianna Fail, the Greens and Social Democrats, with Labour narrowly behind, and FG and SF on 67%. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 15, 2020 9:59:33 GMT
37% Fine Gael
30% Fianna Fáil
19% Labour Party
19% Social Democrats
15% Green Party
9% Sinn Féin
So I'd be pretty well disenfranchised here, but presumably there are odd smaller parties (Renua or whatever) or Independents I could vote for. I have some recollection of a Telegraph journalist (possibly Peregrine Worsthorne) standing in somewhere like Cork as a Unionist candidate back in the 80s but that doesn't seem to be an option either
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 10:09:19 GMT
37% Fine Gael 30% Fianna Fáil 19% Labour Party 19% Social Democrats 15% Green Party 9% Sinn Féin So I'd be pretty well disenfranchised here, but presumably there are odd smaller parties (Renua or whatever) or Independents I could vote for. I have some recollection of a Telegraph journalist (possibly Peregrine Worsthorne) standing in somewhere like Cork as a Unionist candidate back in the 80s but that doesn't seem to be an option either That was Stan Gebler Davies, "known for his eccentric views and exceptional alcohol intake". Many of the votes he won were from his drinking buddies in the Lord Kingsale pub -  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 15, 2020 10:22:04 GMT
37% Fine Gael 30% Fianna Fáil 19% Labour Party 19% Social Democrats 15% Green Party 9% Sinn Féin So I'd be pretty well disenfranchised here, but presumably there are odd smaller parties (Renua or whatever) or Independents I could vote for. I have some recollection of a Telegraph journalist (possibly Peregrine Worsthorne) standing in somewhere like Cork as a Unionist candidate back in the 80s but that doesn't seem to be an option either That was Stan Gebler Davies, "known for his eccentric views and exceptional alcohol intake". Many of the votes he won were from his drinking buddies in the Lord Kingsale pub - I'm sure you're right (I knew somebody would remember) but i'm surprised about their identity because this is a name I don't recall coming across previously (though obviously I have because I remember the story from the time) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 10:34:44 GMT
That was Stan Gebler Davies, "known for his eccentric views and exceptional alcohol intake". Many of the votes he won were from his drinking buddies in the Lord Kingsale pub - I'm sure you're right (I knew somebody would remember) but i'm surprised about their identity because this is a name I don't recall coming across previously (though obviously I have because I remember the story from the time) He was well known at the time in right-wing and journalistic circles - this is his obituary from the Independent. He was latterly based in Kinsale, which happens to be my family's home town.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 15, 2020 10:55:09 GMT
37% Fine Gael 30% Fianna Fáil 19% Labour Party 19% Social Democrats 15% Green Party 9% Sinn Féin So I'd be pretty well disenfranchised here, but presumably there are odd smaller parties (Renua or whatever) or Independents I could vote for. I have some recollection of a Telegraph journalist (possibly Peregrine Worsthorne) standing in somewhere like Cork as a Unionist candidate back in the 80s but that doesn't seem to be an option either I am substantially the same Pete. 47 Fianna Fail (a political party with 'fail' in its very name?) 38 Fine Gael 12 Social Democrat 11 Labour 7 Green 4 Sinn Fein (seems far too high?) I remember the journalist standing in a rural seat on the south west coast I think but can't remember his name. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 15, 2020 11:46:51 GMT
^Same here.
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Post by hullenedge on Jan 15, 2020 13:39:47 GMT
37% Fine Gael 30% Fianna Fáil 19% Labour Party 19% Social Democrats 15% Green Party 9% Sinn Féin So I'd be pretty well disenfranchised here, but presumably there are odd smaller parties (Renua or whatever) or Independents I could vote for. I have some recollection of a Telegraph journalist (possibly Peregrine Worsthorne) standing in somewhere like Cork as a Unionist candidate back in the 80s but that doesn't seem to be an option either That was Stan Gebler Davies, "known for his eccentric views and exceptional alcohol intake". Many of the votes he won were from his drinking buddies in the Lord Kingsale pub - His 1987 election address:- archive.spectator.co.uk/article/31st-january-1987/18/united-ireland-united-kingdom |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 15, 2020 14:49:07 GMT
Labour 85% Social Democrats 85% Greens 85% Fianna Fáil 84% Fine Gael 82% Sinn Féin 81% Mushy centrist  I got little more than half that on Gael Fail but pretty nearly the same result for the other four - and they were listed in the same order. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 15, 2020 16:44:40 GMT
Sinn Fein 71% Fine Gael 69% Green 67% Labour 63% Fianna Fail 62% Social Democrats 62%
The usual don't fit in a party box for me.
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 15, 2020 22:20:37 GMT
Labour 92
Green 92
Social Democrats 90
Sinn Fein 85
Fine Gael 68
Fianna Fáil 48
In a country where there are no Liberals it's a reflection of where the Radicals are (NB, obviously in SF's case the radicalism is connected with severe unpalatability...).
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Post by relique on Jan 15, 2020 22:59:55 GMT
Labour 92 Green 92 Social Democrats 90 Sinn Fein 85 Fine Gael 68 Fianna Fáil 48 In a country where there are no Liberals it's a reflection of where the Radicals are (NB, obviously in SF's case the radicalism is connected with severe unpalatability...). My experience is that radicality can emerge for any ideology (or lack there of). My current head of state being quite a good example of centrist or liberal radicality |
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Post by Toylyyev on Jan 16, 2020 6:15:43 GMT
Labour 92 Green 92 Social Democrats 90 Sinn Fein 85 Fine Gael 68 Fianna Fáil 48 In a country where there are no Liberals it's a reflection of where the Radicals are (NB, obviously in SF's case the radicalism is connected with severe unpalatability...). My experience is that radicality can emerge for any ideology (or lack there of). My current head of state being quite a good example of centrist or liberal radicality There seems to be an exception to that rule, examplified by this quote taken from a tribute to a 'Scotch Irish' 'country pastor' of a congregationalist church from Greenland, New Hampshire. His mind was equally removed from a conceited and dogmatic conservatism on the one hand, and from a rash and empiric radicalism on the other. Or put more prosaically, calling it conservatism for dummies adds a reflexive property to it that seems to lack in other definitions. The tribute is worth a read. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 16, 2020 7:05:32 GMT
My experience is that radicality can emerge for any ideology (or lack there of). My current head of state being quite a good example of centrist or liberal radicality There seems to be an exception to that rule, examplified by this quote taken from a tribute to a 'Scotch Irish' 'country pastor' of a congregationalist church from Greenland, New Hampshire. His mind was equally removed from a conceited and dogmatic conservatism on the one hand, and from a rash and empiric radicalism on the other. Or put more prosaically, calling it conservatism for dummies adds a reflexive property to it that seems to lack in other definitions. The tribute is worth a read. It was indeed. I am minded of that other well known New Hampshire man Robert Frost " I never dared be radical when young"... etc |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 16, 2020 8:34:58 GMT
Sinn Fein 71% Fine Gael 69% Green 67% Labour 63% Fianna Fail 62% Social Democrats 62%
The usual don't fit in a party box for me.
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Redid this morning in a pissed off mood. Made a big difference to the results.
Fine Gael 78% Fianna Fail 60% Green 45% Labour 42%
Sinn Fein 41%
Social Democrats 38%
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 16, 2020 14:47:56 GMT
Labour 92 Green 92 Social Democrats 90 Sinn Fein 85 Fine Gael 68 Fianna Fáil 48 In a country where there are no Liberals it's a reflection of where the Radicals are (NB, obviously in SF's case the radicalism is connected with severe unpalatability...). Irish Labour are honestly not that bad a match for the LDs... certainly more analogous to them than to GB Labour (there are of course good reasons for how things got that way). |
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jan 16, 2020 16:24:40 GMT
Maureen O'Sullivan (Ind) not seeking re-election in Dublin Central.
The constituency will be a 4 seater in this election, compared to 3 in 2016..
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Post by polaris on Jan 16, 2020 16:42:59 GMT
84% Fianna Fail
74% Social Democrats
73% Fine Gael
71% Green
69% Labour
68% Workers Party
55% Sinn Fein
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 16, 2020 17:30:10 GMT
Someone forgot to tick integrity and honesty as important qualities! |
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 16, 2020 20:42:38 GMT
Labour 92 Green 92 Social Democrats 90 Sinn Fein 85 Fine Gael 68 Fianna Fáil 48 In a country where there are no Liberals it's a reflection of where the Radicals are (NB, obviously in SF's case the radicalism is connected with severe unpalatability...). Irish Labour are honestly not that bad a match for the LDs... certainly more analogous to them than to GB Labour (there are of course good reasons for how things got that way). Yes, I've long thought that to be the case. |
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