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Post by therealriga on Jun 19, 2022 14:32:35 GMT
Granada has indeed been among the least left provinces in (V)andalusia. DeViations from national average of Left-vs.-Right (n.b. only including parties with seats in the national parliament):   ...and it has indeed been caused - apart from the densily settled coast - a lot by the capital itself. Regional election 2018:  Fascinating. There's a lot of old money in Granada city But that's actually standard political geography in much of Spain. The cities, and especially the central parts of the cities, vote for the right as that's where people with money live. Poorer inhabitants who don't vote for the right live on the edge of town or eke out a living in rural areas. In Valencia, people I spoke to were mystified as to why better off British people would want to live in, as they put it, dull far-out suburbs where they'd have to spend time in traffic jams to get to work and where the leisure and recreational possibilities were less. Why would anyone with money do that, they asked, when they could just live in the centre and be near everything? There's the map of the last locals in Valencia showing this: www.lovevalencia.com/resultado-de-las-elecciones-municipales-en-valencia.html |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 14:49:39 GMT
Fascinating. There's a lot of old money in Granada city But that's actually standard political geography in much of Spain. The cities, and especially the central parts of the cities, vote for the right as that's where people with money live. Poorer inhabitants who don't vote for the right live on the edge of town or eke out a living in rural areas. In Valencia, people I spoke to were mystified as to why better off British people would want to live in, as they put it, dull far-out suburbs where they'd have to spend time in traffic jams to get to work and where the leisure and recreational possibilities were less. Why would anyone with money do that, they asked, when they could just live in the centre and be near everything? There's the map of the last locals in Valencia showing this: www.lovevalencia.com/resultado-de-las-elecciones-municipales-en-valencia.htmlYes, that's very true. Very different to Britain...but true. It will be interesting to see if that reverses in the years to come |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 15:51:18 GMT
Turnout in Andalusian regional election 34% at 2pm... that's up 4% on 2pm 2018. I don't know if the students have got out of bed yet In OpinionPolls it were mainly leftWingers, who were undecided, so that's a good sign for the left (although certainly not enough for a majority). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 15:58:31 GMT
P.scr.: UnDecideds on a LeftRight-scale (according to CIS [which was transformed into a PSOE-AgitProp-association, though]):  |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 16:00:20 GMT
We should know soon. First results... village by village basis... should be available about 8.30pm English time
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 16:01:36 GMT
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 16:09:49 GMT
New turn out figures released 7 mins ago and show a reversal of the earlier increased turn out: 44% turnout at 6pm today compared with 46.47% at 6pm in 2018
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 16:11:37 GMT
Fascinating. There's a lot of old money in Granada city But that's actually standard political geography in much of Spain. The cities, and especially the central parts of the cities, vote for the right as that's where people with money live. Poorer inhabitants who don't vote for the right live on the edge of town or eke out a living in rural areas. In Valencia, people I spoke to were mystified as to why better off British people would want to live in, as they put it, dull far-out suburbs where they'd have to spend time in traffic jams to get to work and where the leisure and recreational possibilities were less. Why would anyone with money do that, they asked, when they could just live in the centre and be near everything? There's the map of the last locals in Valencia showing this: www.lovevalencia.com/resultado-de-las-elecciones-municipales-en-valencia.htmlYes, but - we discussed this months ago here - really only "in much of Spain", so not in the NW. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 16:13:21 GMT
New turn out figures released 7 mins ago and show a reversal of the earlier increased turn out: 44% turnout at 6pm today compared with 46.47% at 6pm in 2018 So a very bad sign for the left: ChurchGoers aso. came out more, students aso. less. |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 16:15:38 GMT
New turn out figures released 7 mins ago and show a reversal of the earlier increased turn out: 44% turnout at 6pm today compared with 46.47% at 6pm in 2018 So a very bad sign for the left: ChurchGoers aso. came out more, students aso. less. I saw the nuns going to vote. I couldn't tell by their demeanour who they were voting for |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 19, 2022 16:34:37 GMT
So a very bad sign for the left: ChurchGoers aso. came out more, students aso. less. I saw the nuns going to vote. I couldn't tell by their demeanour who they were voting for You were nun the wiser. |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 16:38:28 GMT
I saw the nuns going to vote. I couldn't tell by their demeanour who they were voting for You were nun the wiser. Ah, very good |
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Post by john07 on Jun 19, 2022 17:11:31 GMT
I saw the nuns going to vote. I couldn't tell by their demeanour who they were voting for You were nun the wiser. I hope that none of them had dirty habits. |
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Post by iain on Jun 19, 2022 18:04:19 GMT
PP majority projected.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 18:14:12 GMT
Absolute majority for the PP according to an exitPoll for RTVE:
58-61 PP
26-30 PSOE
13-15 Vox
04-05 Pod.
03-03 AA
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 18:16:33 GMT
Polls closed 10mins ago.
Exit poll:
PP forecast 58-61 (26 in 2018)
PSOE forecast 26-30 (33 in 2018)
Vox 13-15 (12)
Podemos splinters 7-8 (17)
Ciudadanos 0 (21)
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 18:43:55 GMT
Projection of seats on the basis of the small number of votes already counted suggest PP will not get majority.
Forecast from actual votes:
PP 49 seats
PSOE 39
VOX 15
Splintered Podemos 6
Ciudafanos 0
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 19:02:42 GMT
Projection of seats on the basis of the small number of votes already counted suggest PP will not get majority. Forecast from actual votes: PP 49 seats PSOE 39 VOX 15 Splintered Podemos 6 Ciudafanos 0 Is it actually a "projection" & "forecast"? Looks like no more than only the votes counted so far. The countingCourse of the electionEvening in Nov. 2019:  |
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Post by observer on Jun 19, 2022 19:12:38 GMT
Projection of seats on the basis of the small number of votes already counted suggest PP will not get majority. Forecast from actual votes: PP 49 seats PSOE 39 VOX 15 Splintered Podemos 6 Ciudafanos 0 Is it actually a "projection" & "forecast"? Looks like no more than only the votes counted so far. The countingCourse of the electionEvening in Nov. 2019: It's a projection on the basis of the approx 5% of votes counted so far. The first areas to finish counting tend to be villages... predominantly PSOE, so the projections will change as urban areas complete their counts |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 19, 2022 19:16:17 GMT
Is it actually a "projection" & "forecast"? Looks like no more than only the votes counted so far. The countingCourse of the electionEvening in Nov. 2019: It's a projection on the basis of the approx 5% of votes counted so far. The first areas to finish counting tend to be villages... predominantly PSOE, so the projections will change as urban areas complete their counts So, what an institute assumes to be the final total numbers? Which one? |
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