cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Oct 14, 2012 9:27:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 14:54:43 GMT
Interesting. I hate to be pedantic, but should this be referred to as a general election, given that the Basque region isn't officially a country?
I suppose you could call it Spain's equivalent of the Scottish Parliament. Unlike Scotland, however, the Basque Country isn't going to get the chance of an independence referendum any time soon.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 16, 2012 16:29:33 GMT
Interesting. I hate to be pedantic, Don't apologise - it means you fit right in here  |
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Oct 16, 2012 21:07:21 GMT
Interesting. I hate to be pedantic, but should this be referred to as a general election, given that the Basque region isn't officially a country? Even the Spanish state recognise the Basques as a "historic nationality" I think general election is an appropriate term, I have never seen it restricted to the UK parliament. Even the BBC referred to the last National Assembly elections in Wales as the "Welsh General Election". If the Spanish state frustrates the rights of the non Spanish nationalities to hold a referendum then the parliaments of those nations will just have to declare UDI..... |
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Post by erlend on Oct 16, 2012 22:47:07 GMT
Interesting. I hate to be pedantic, but should this be referred to as a general election, given that the Basque region isn't officially a country? Even the Spanish state recognise the Basques as a "historic nationality" I think general election is an appropriate term, I have never seen it restricted to the UK parliament. Even the BBC referred to the last National Assembly elections in Wales as the "Welsh General Election". If the Spanish state frustrates the rights of the non Spanish nationalities to hold a referendum then the parliaments of those nations will just have to declare UDI..... I don't think we want the discussion heard recently in Catalunya extended to Euskadi (not sure I have that right). |
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Post by piperdave on Oct 17, 2012 0:05:10 GMT
Interesting. I hate to be pedantic, but should this be referred to as a general election, given that the Basque region isn't officially a country? I suppose you could call it Spain's equivalent of the Scottish Parliament. Unlike Scotland, however, the Basque Country isn't going to get the chance of an independence referendum any time soon. If it is an election where all the seats in the legislature are up for grabs, then it is a general election to that body. If it's not, then it's a by-election (or special election or whatever term your society has for it), or an election of a segment of that legislature, which is a new one on me, but would be an interesting electoral arrangement to say the least. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 17, 2012 6:43:48 GMT
I don't think we want the discussion heard recently in Catalunya extended to Euskadi (not sure I have that right). I don't think we want the reaction we got from the military certainly. The internal enlargement of the EU is certainly back on the agenda with these elections. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 22, 2012 22:14:33 GMT
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Post by cibwr on Oct 22, 2012 22:18:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 15:05:27 GMT
Yet another dreadful result for the Socialists, unfortunately, which is likely to be followed by a battering in Catalonia in November. I'm surprised that they cannot make any headway at all. If you compare them with the Labour Party here, after a year in opposition we were ahead in the polls and gained 700 council seats. In Galicia it is largely because the Socialists have a rival left wing party to contend with, the Galician Left Alternative who have come from nowhere to get 14% of the vote. It may be also partly a reverse of 1997-2000 in the UK, where the electorate just aren't prepared to give the former governing party an inch. I would imagine the Spanish are aware of the state the economy was in when the Socialists left power and it may take a while before they are in a mood to consider supporting them again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 15:58:44 GMT
In Galicia it is largely because the Socialists have a rival left wing party to contend with, the Galician Left Alternative who have come from nowhere to get 14% of the vote. I understand that the the Galician Left Alternative emerged from a split in the Galician Nationalist Bloc, which is itself a coalition of a number of mostly left-wing nationalist and regionalist parties. The new Left Alternative seems to have appealed to both Socialist and Nationalist voters from the previous election. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 23, 2012 21:31:47 GMT
Think the trouble is a credibility problem.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 24, 2012 12:09:48 GMT
Agree with that last paragraph, trident. They did seem to indulge in rather a lot of posturing.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Nov 8, 2012 22:30:32 GMT
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 18, 2012 19:55:34 GMT
The PSC have done this to themselves, but it's still awful to see.
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Post by john07 on Nov 23, 2012 1:22:07 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 25, 2012 19:37:06 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Nov 25, 2012 22:18:21 GMT
CiU are the biggest losers in the election losing 12 seats.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 26, 2012 12:13:50 GMT
CiU fail. Of course an utter catastrophe for the PSC as well, but then that was expected. ERC is now the largest opposition party, although only due to malapportionment.
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Post by cibwr on Nov 26, 2012 22:29:59 GMT
The big winners here are the left wing nationalist parties, we are in interesting times, an over all gain of one seat to the nationalist parties.
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