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Post by timmullen1 on May 8, 2018 13:49:48 GMT
Does the branch select from the shortlist or is it all up to the NEC? I think the branches don't have any role. It's entirely self-nomination to the NEC. The CLP does get to vote on which candidate on the shortlist should be selected. I hesitate to disagree but Clause IV Section 6 of the Rule Book states “In all circumstances (i.e. where there is no MP, where the MP has announced s/he is retiring or where the MP is putting themselves forward for re-selection but has failed to win the trigger ballot) the CLP Shortlisting Committee shall draw up a shortlist of interested candidates to present to all members of the CLP who are eligible to vote in accordance with Clause I.1.A above.”, and from recent memory the whole process in Stoke Central last year following Tristram Hunt’s resignation was handled by the CLP and our then Regional Officer for North Staffordshire. |
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Post by alderman on May 8, 2018 13:55:30 GMT
12 is correct. The last day of service of the retiring Council was confirmed as Monday May 7 |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 8, 2018 14:05:34 GMT
No, 12. Her term began at midnight. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 8, 2018 14:12:29 GMT
I think the branches don't have any role. It's entirely self-nomination to the NEC. The CLP does get to vote on which candidate on the shortlist should be selected. I hesitate to disagree but Clause IV Section 6 of the Rule Book states “In all circumstances (i.e. where there is no MP, where the MP has announced s/he is retiring or where the MP is putting themselves forward for re-selection but has failed to win the trigger ballot) the CLP Shortlisting Committee shall draw up a shortlist of interested candidates to present to all members of the CLP who are eligible to vote in accordance with Clause I.1.A above.”, and from recent memory the whole process in Stoke Central last year following Tristram Hunt’s resignation was handled by the CLP and our then Regional Officer for North Staffordshire. Not according to Labourlist: labourlist.org/2017/01/exclusive-labours-shortlist-for-stoke/"Officials from Labour’s ruling national executive committee whittled down the longlist of 11 yesterday." |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 8, 2018 14:13:48 GMT
In the brave new world of the Labour Party, she has already proven herself to be the Best Possible Councillor because she is a Corbynite. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 8, 2018 14:24:28 GMT
In the brave new world of the Labour Party, she has already proven herself to be the Best Possible Councillor because she is a Corbynite. Paging Merseymike |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 14:37:05 GMT
12 hours🙄. That surely won’t go down well in Lewisham?
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Post by mrpastelito on May 8, 2018 14:47:55 GMT
12 hours🙄. That surely won’t go down well in Lewisham? Why not? Clearly a 'senior councillor'. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 8, 2018 14:50:54 GMT
12 hours🙄. That surely won’t go down well in Lewisham? Why not? Clearly a 'senior councillor'. Bonus points to her for using "vibrant" and "diverse" in her self-nomination. She's clearly clued-up on the leftist jargon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 15:12:39 GMT
Oh this is going to be the best selection process ever, I'm buying tickets.
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Post by jamie on May 8, 2018 15:38:52 GMT
Didn't Momentum ban members of political parties other than Labour from joining a while ago? Seems to have gone well... |
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 8, 2018 15:49:48 GMT
Didn't Momentum ban members of political parties other than Labour from joining a while ago? Seems to have gone well... AWL will claim not to be a political party as such, surely? |
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Post by jamie on May 8, 2018 15:54:20 GMT
AWL will claim not to be a political party as such, surely? Just googled and turns out they deregistered as a party in 2015 after Corbyn's victory. |
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Post by markgoodair on May 8, 2018 16:04:23 GMT
Greens third in this constituency on Thursday according to Britain Elects. What are the chances the Lib Dems would stand down to give the Greens a clean run at Labour? Especially if a Corbynista who follows the party line on single market etc is selected none |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:12:42 GMT
Greens third in this constituency on Thursday according to Britain Elects. What are the chances the Lib Dems would stand down to give the Greens a clean run at Labour? Especially if a Corbynista who follows the party line on single market etc is selected Not a dig at you, but the fact that it's even being imagined that the Liberal Democrats might tempted to back the Greens as a vaguely centrist pro-single-market opposition to Labour makes me feel like I've entered an actual parallel universe. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 16:25:41 GMT
Not a dig at you, but that fact that it's even being imagined that the Liberal Democrats might tempted to back the Greens as a vaguely centrist pro-single-market opposition to Labour makes me feel like I've entered an actual parallel universe. I'm not saying it's likely! But it's not like the two parties haven't entered pacts before... and it's not completely impossible to think the Lib Dems would do it just to have the favour returned at a later by-election. It's more the idea of the Greens as a vehicle to campaign for the single market that's extraordinary, really. Though I do accept that the leadership have been making noises in that direction recently. |
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Post by timmullen1 on May 8, 2018 16:31:03 GMT
I hesitate to disagree but Clause IV Section 6 of the Rule Book states “In all circumstances (i.e. where there is no MP, where the MP has announced s/he is retiring or where the MP is putting themselves forward for re-selection but has failed to win the trigger ballot) the CLP Shortlisting Committee shall draw up a shortlist of interested candidates to present to all members of the CLP who are eligible to vote in accordance with Clause I.1.A above.”, and from recent memory the whole process in Stoke Central last year following Tristram Hunt’s resignation was handled by the CLP and our then Regional Officer for North Staffordshire. Not according to Labourlist: labourlist.org/2017/01/exclusive-labours-shortlist-for-stoke/"Officials from Labour’s ruling national executive committee whittled down the longlist of 11 yesterday." My bad, although trawling back through Phil Burton-Cartlidge’s blog from the time it seems all of the 11 long listed and three of the four shortlisted were the people the CLP wanted, so either that was exceptional insight by the NEC, pure fluke, or there was some albeit unofficial liaison with the officers/Executive of the CLP. |
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Post by andrea on May 8, 2018 16:36:31 GMT
I hesitate to disagree but Clause IV Section 6 of the Rule Book states “In all circumstances (i.e. where there is no MP, where the MP has announced s/he is retiring or where the MP is putting themselves forward for re-selection but has failed to win the trigger ballot) the CLP Shortlisting Committee shall draw up a shortlist of interested candidates to present to all members of the CLP who are eligible to vote in accordance with Clause I.1.A above.”, and from recent memory the whole process in Stoke Central last year following Tristram Hunt’s resignation was handled by the CLP and our then Regional Officer for North Staffordshire. Not according to Labourlist: labourlist.org/2017/01/exclusive-labours-shortlist-for-stoke/"Officials from Labour’s ruling national executive committee whittled down the longlist of 11 yesterday." according to the Guardian, the shortlisting panel for Stoke Central was composed by Keith Vaz, Glenis Willmott, Keith Birch and Rhea Wolfson |
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Post by timmullen1 on May 8, 2018 16:40:45 GMT
according to the Guardian, the shortlisting panel for Stoke Central was composed of Keith Vaz, Glenis Willmott, Keith Birch and Rhea Wolfson Yes, and IIRC correctly they had to go without Glenis Willmott as there was a European PLP equivalent of a Three Line Whip meaning she was unable to get away from Brussels. UKIP especially also tried to get some mileage out of Keith Vaz being on the panel following the tabloid sting of him. (In the words of Celine Dion, it’s all coming back to me now!). |
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Post by k9 on May 8, 2018 16:45:01 GMT
Early odds from Ladbrokes: Labour are an unbackable 1/33. Somewhat surprisingly, they give Lib Dems 16/1 and the Tories 33/1. That 16/1 might be worth a tenner, but no more. Greens at 100/1 and UKIP 500/1, though I'm surprised they quote odds for UKIP at all. However, all this is in advance of any candidates being selected. Lib Dems changed to 12/1 just now when I checked... |
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