WJ
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 19:51:04 GMT
Roughly a third of the way through. SD doing worse than the exit poll suggested. S doing better.
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mboy
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Post by mboy on Sept 9, 2018 19:55:23 GMT
Worse than which exit poll? They were quite different.
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 9, 2018 19:58:18 GMT
Worse than which exit poll? They were quite different. Currently on 18% so half way between the two posted on the thread. On a downward trajectory so far it would appear... |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 20:09:20 GMT
At the moment: www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/wEGeKPhas the SD at 20.5% making the Guardian's early "bad night for the Swedish Democrats" look a bit awry.. Then again hope springs eternal in the breasts who hope Elites end up on top..OK I'm finally going to bite on a thing that has started to nag at me. I can completely understand anyone taking a principled opposition to the EU and all its works for various reasons. But isn't it a bit odd for someone who calls themself a liberal, and who (I understand) was once a member of the LD party, to be quite so delighted by the good fortunes of La Lega and the SDs? Are these really what you consider to be Liberal parties, or is hostility to the EU and/or immigration enough to get your hope springing eternal, irrespective of all other polices? How about AfD, the FN or Fidesz? Would they get your support? In what way do any or all of the above qualify as liberal? And in a related question what way does, e.g. a Syrian refugee living in a tower block on the outskirts of Gothenburg (or Rome, or London come to that) qualify as a member of The Elite? "Who is not republican [=left] with 20 has no heart; who is republican with 30 [some versions: 40] has no brain." fits to Liberals (not so to others). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 20:11:51 GMT
The positive aspect of ochlocracy is, that the GOD-less trash gets, what it deserves - good night, old Sweden!
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WJ
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 20:37:42 GMT
My voting district and the ones around it in SW Uppsala are in. Support for "others" which here mostly means FI has melted away with the vote seemingly going to V. S are holding up well and C have increased their vote. MP and M are the biggest losers. SD have only made tiny gains, but this isnt really their territory.
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 20:58:53 GMT
Roughly 700 districts left to declare. On this trajectory the Alliance has a net gain of 1 seat (M -14, C +8, KD +7, L +-0). The Red-Greens are down 22 (S -13, MP-9). V, who are not in government are up 7 though. SD are up 14.
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 21:13:49 GMT
My voting district and the ones around it in SW Uppsala are in. Support for "others" which here mostly means FI has melted away with the vote seemingly going to V. S are holding up well and C have increased their vote. MP and M are the biggest losers. SD have only made tiny gains, but this isnt really their territory. Uppsala is - together with Göteborg, Lund and the Stockholm-area - the only municipalities, where S actually gained. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 21:15:50 GMT
Strong gains for SD in the South (expectable) and the western Mid (Dalarne aso.) - but why?
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WJ
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 21:17:48 GMT
My voting district and the ones around it in SW Uppsala are in. Support for "others" which here mostly means FI has melted away with the vote seemingly going to V. S are holding up well and C have increased their vote. MP and M are the biggest losers. SD have only made tiny gains, but this isnt really their territory. Uppsala is - together with Göteborg, Lund and the Stockholm-area - the only municipalities, where S actually gained. Yep, makes sense as we bemoan the rise of the right from our ivory towers. |
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 21:20:21 GMT
Strong gains for SD in the South (expectable) and the western Mid (Dalarne aso.) - but why? Dalarna isn't really mid Sweden. It's Norrland. It's full of small, declining and post industrial towns, so it's not so surprising that SD have done so well. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 21:23:12 GMT
Strong gains for SD in the South (expectable) and the western Mid (Dalarne aso.) - but why? Clear is, that M had strong losses exactly in those areas (S, w&e M), making it obvious, where those SD-gains came mainly from. |
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 21:23:37 GMT
Roughly 700 districts left to declare. On this trajectory the Alliance has a net gain of 1 seat (M -14, C +8, KD +7, L +-0). The Red-Greens are down 22 (S -13, MP-9). V, who are not in government are up 7 though. SD are up 14. Slight revision with just 300 districts left. C are up 1 and MP down 1. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 21:29:39 GMT
Uppsala is - together with Göteborg, Lund and the Stockholm-area - the only municipalities, where S actually gained. Yep, makes sense as we bemoan the rise of the right from our ivory towers. Yes, Uppsala is quite outstanding from its neighbours (S and SD, M and MP). |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 9, 2018 21:31:53 GMT
Roughly 700 districts left to declare. On this trajectory the Alliance has a net gain of 1 seat (M -14, C +8, KD +7, L +-0). The Red-Greens are down 22 (S -13, MP-9). V, who are not in government are up 7 though. SD are up 14. Slight revision with just 300 districts left. C are up 1 and MP down 1. What results in 143:143... |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 9, 2018 21:33:35 GMT
It's more that with FI basically kaput their votes had to go somewhere - i.e. back to where they originally came from. They polled over 5% in Uppsala city last time, for instance.
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WJ
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Post by WJ on Sept 9, 2018 21:37:55 GMT
Yep, makes sense as we bemoan the rise of the right from our ivory towers. Yes, Uppsala is quite outstanding from its neighbours (S and SD, M and MP). Uppsala is old Sweden to the core, with everything that that entails. It has the oldest and most prestigious Scandinavian university, it is the seat of the Swedish Church. People complain that UK politicians are drawn too much from Oxbridge, but I would wager that a greater percentage of Swedish politicians studied at Uppsala and Lund. |
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Post by Izzyeviel on Sept 9, 2018 21:38:16 GMT
The Alliance is calling for the government to step down, link |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 9, 2018 21:49:56 GMT
Yes, Uppsala is quite outstanding from its neighbours (S and SD, M and MP). Uppsala is old Sweden to the core, with everything that that entails. It has the oldest and most prestigious Scandinavian university, it is the seat of the Swedish Church. People complain that UK politicians are drawn too much from Oxbridge, but I would wager that a greater percentage of Swedish politicians studied at Uppsala and Lund. Do they still have those geographically-based fraternity-type affairs? |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 9, 2018 21:50:08 GMT
Only 158 districts left to count. The result is no longer in doubt at this point.
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