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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:31:41 GMT
but it's quite commonly used. When people say; you can't rule anything out, anythings possible, etc. they mean that various things can happen and we can't dismiss any of them Quite so. And no big deal at that. Very happy with the casual use of such well accepted phrases. But it is a bit of a pet aversion for someone to use 'literally' for emphasis in a manner that betrays a gross solecism of usage. Thought he would know better than that? But then perhaps not? the word literally is misused alot and I can understand why it annoys people particularly when it's unintentionally misused because the word literally has then lost all meaning. But I suspect he knew he didn't mean literally even though he said it and in that sense it has a new meaning maybe not the right one but better than using it for the sake of it? |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 5, 2019 15:32:02 GMT
but it's quite commonly used. When people say; you can't rule anything out, anythings possible, etc. they mean that various things can happen and we can't dismiss any of them Quite so. And no big deal at that. Very happy with the casual use of such well accepted phrases. But it is a bit of a pet aversion for someone to use 'literally' for emphasis in a manner that betrays a gross solecism of usage. Thought he would know better than that? But then perhaps not? It's a perfectly acceptable rhetorical usage and is far older even than you. Of course you're the person who claimed to be the victim of 'aggravated libel' on this forum, so I'm not sure if you should be lecturing on the correct use of words and phrases. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2019 15:35:35 GMT
Quite so. And no big deal at that. Very happy with the casual use of such well accepted phrases. But it is a bit of a pet aversion for someone to use 'literally' for emphasis in a manner that betrays a gross solecism of usage. Thought he would know better than that? But then perhaps not? It's a perfectly acceptable rhetorical usage and is far older even than you. Of course you're the person who claimed to be the victim of 'aggravated libel' on this forum, so I'm not sure if you should be lecturing on the correct use of words and phrases. Well. I shall leave the common misuse of words safe in your so capable hands. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2019 15:44:55 GMT
Quite so. And no big deal at that. Very happy with the casual use of such well accepted phrases. But it is a bit of a pet aversion for someone to use 'literally' for emphasis in a manner that betrays a gross solecism of usage. Thought he would know better than that? But then perhaps not? It's a perfectly acceptable rhetorical usage and is far older even than you. Of course you're the person who claimed to be the victim of 'aggravated libel' on this forum, so I'm not sure if you should be lecturing on the correct use of words and phrases. You have deliberately picked off one of my scabs and made my wound bleed afresh. Was that wise or appropriate or deserved? It was then a genuine hurt to me and I considered it a libel. The surrounding circumstances attending the commission of it (including the authorities here calling upon the perpetrator to apologise which he refused) are a classic example of the definition of aggravation. Perhaps you should look both words up. I didn't need to! |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 9, 2019 10:47:06 GMT
Another day, another electoral alliance starts cracking: Ahmad Tibi plans to pull his party (Ta'al - a secular nationalist party) out of the Joint List. Ta'al has actually only ever run in electoral pacts (first with Balad, then with Hadash and then with the UAL... so with literally everyone) so Tibi is presumably feeling pretty bullish about his standing within the Arab electorate.
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 9, 2019 11:01:53 GMT
Another day, another electoral alliance starts cracking: Ahmad Tibi plans to pull his party (Ta'al - a secular nationalist party) out of the Joint List. Ta'al has actually only ever run in electoral pacts (first with Balad, then with Hadash and then with the UAL... so with literally everyone) so Tibi is presumably feeling pretty bullish about his standing within the Arab electorate. If this means more of the Israeli Arab electorate voting it will be a good thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:09:58 GMT
Another day, another electoral alliance starts cracking: Ahmad Tibi plans to pull his party (Ta'al - a secular nationalist party) out of the Joint List. Ta'al has actually only ever run in electoral pacts (first with Balad, then with Hadash and then with the UAL... so with literally everyone) so Tibi is presumably feeling pretty bullish about his standing within the Arab electorate. If this means more of the Israeli Arab electorate voting it will be a good thing. though a split in the Joint List might mean that they fail to make the threshold |
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Post by Delighted Of Tunbridge Wells on Jan 9, 2019 11:31:19 GMT
No. Not true. You give the appearance of omniscient knowledge on these matters but really have no more of a whit than the rest of us. "...literally anything could happen...". No, obviously complete nonsense. Let me postulate a 100% TO all voting Labor? Not a single elector turns out? These extreme religious factions sweep in with a massive majority? No, No and No. "...on between seven and ten seats, which is very safe." How is that 'very safe'? How reliable are those polls believed to be. Thats unfair. He didn't literally mean anything. I think the last is entirely possible. Naftali Bennett and Ayelet Shaked are worryingly popular and if they don't get in on their own, they could always partner with the more extreme right factions in Likud. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 9, 2019 12:34:18 GMT
If this means more of the Israeli Arab electorate voting it will be a good thing. though a split in the Joint List might mean that they fail to make the threshold That is a risk,but I'm assuming he thinks he can up the turnout among Arab Israelis which does not reflect their number in the population. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 10, 2019 9:27:05 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 21, 2019 14:11:43 GMT
Various updates:
1. Gantz is to form a united list with Lapid. This potentially sets up the new electoral alliance as a challenger-for-government, though the campaign is long. Of course such a list doesn't really stand for a great deal other than not being Likud, but we've been here several times before with different actors.
2. The Kahanist party Otzma Yehudit will be on the Jewish Home list; the deal was actually brokered by Netanyahu. This is controversial and will presumably lead to a nastier and more polarised campaign across the board than would otherwise have been the case.
3. The Joint List is dead: Hadash have read the polls and will run with Ta'al, while the UAL and Balad will also run together.
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Post by iain on Feb 21, 2019 14:26:30 GMT
Various updates: 1. Gantz is to form a united list with Lapid. This potentially sets up the new electoral alliance as a challenger-for-government, though the campaign is long. Of course such a list doesn't really stand for a great deal other than not being Likud, but we've been here several times before with different actors. 2. The Kahanist party Otzma Yehudit will be on the Jewish Home list; the deal was actually brokered by Netanyahu. This is controversial and will presumably lead to a nastier and more polarised campaign across the board than would otherwise have been the case. 3. The Joint List is dead: Hadash have read the polls and will run with Ta'al, while the UAL and Balad will also run together. Kahanist? |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 21, 2019 15:07:14 GMT
Various updates: 1. Gantz is to form a united list with Lapid. This potentially sets up the new electoral alliance as a challenger-for-government, though the campaign is long. Of course such a list doesn't really stand for a great deal other than not being Likud, but we've been here several times before with different actors. 2. The Kahanist party Otzma Yehudit will be on the Jewish Home list; the deal was actually brokered by Netanyahu. This is controversial and will presumably lead to a nastier and more polarised campaign across the board than would otherwise have been the case. 3. The Joint List is dead: Hadash have read the polls and will run with Ta'al, while the UAL and Balad will also run together. Kahanist? I presume that is a reference to the extreme nationalist Rabbi Meir Kahane, who was assassinated in New York in 1990. P.S. I am old enough to remember Kahane as a prominent controversial Israeli politician in the 1980s, and it was a bit of a shock to be reminded of the fact that he died 29 years ago - which doesn't seem a very long time for someone as old as me. After I wrote my initial comment above, I was wondering if I had perhaps been unfair in using the word "extreme", but, after reminding myself of the details, I realise that he was on the extreme wing of the extremists. In fact, more extreme than I had realised. When he was 15, he was arrested for throwing eggs and tomatoes at Ernest Bevin: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 28, 2019 17:23:59 GMT
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 6, 2019 11:13:56 GMT
The Central Elections Commission in Israel is today debating whether to ban Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power), a far right Kahanist Party, from the elections in a petition brought by Meretz. This follows on from the attorney general saying that Michael Ben Ari, a leader of Otzma Yehudit, should be banned from entering the Knesset for his racist opinions, including saying Arabs should be “dealt with”. There is also another to be voted on to ban Balad, an Arab party some of whose MK’s have been found to have aided terrorists, including its founder who fled as a fugitive in 2006 for passing Hezbollah info on rocket landings during the war in 2006. This petition was brought by the Likud.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 13:13:40 GMT
The Central Elections Commission in Israel is today debating whether to ban Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power), a far right Kahanist Party, from the elections in a petition brought by Meretz. This follows on from the attorney general saying that Michael Ben Ari, a leader of Otzma Yehudit, should be banned from entering the Knesset for his racist opinions, including saying Arabs should be “dealt with”. There is also another to be voted on to ban Balad, an Arab party some of whose MK’s have been found to have aided terrorists, including its founder who fled as a fugitive in 2006 for passing Hezbollah info on rocket landings during the war in 2006. This petition was brought by the Likud. Balad has been banned by the CEC twice before in 2003 and 2009. In both cases the ban was overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court a few days later. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 6, 2019 13:55:24 GMT
Yeah, it's basically a ritualistic performance by this point. Particularly in the case of Balad. Who, given their present polling figures, could probably do with the publicity.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 6, 2019 15:27:22 GMT
The petition to keep Ben Ari out of the Knesset has been defeated by 15 votes to 16. The Otzma Yehudit petition is voted down by 1-25.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 7, 2019 10:00:04 GMT
The Raam-Balad list has been disqualified by 17 votes to 10. Ofer Kasif has also been disqualified for calling the justice minister neo Nazi scum
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