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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 22, 2013 20:11:13 GMT
Channel 10: Likud-Beiteinu 31, Yesh Atid 18, Labor 17, Shas 13, JH-NU 12, Hatnuah 6, UTJ 6, Meretz 6, Hadash 5, UAL-Ta'al 4, Balad 2
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 22, 2013 20:15:17 GMT
Yesh Atid+Labor+Shas+Meretz+Hatnua ?
Couldn't happen, surely.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 22, 2013 20:23:02 GMT
Channel 1: Likud-Beiteinu 31, Yesh Atid 19, Labor 17, JH-NU 12, Shas 11, Meretz 7, Hatnuah 7, UTJ 6, Hadash 3, UAL-Ta'al 3, Balad 2, Strong Israel 2
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Post by Richard Allen on Jan 22, 2013 20:55:26 GMT
One exit poll rumour has Meretz on 8 seats, which would be quite the extraordinary turnaround. I heard 6 seats, which isn't shabby for Meretz. Likud said to sending out last minute desperate texts - how sad. Words can't describe how sad I am about this
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Post by Richard Allen on Jan 22, 2013 20:56:07 GMT
Yesh Atid+Labor+Shas+Meretz+Hatnua ? Couldn't happen, surely. Bizarre coalitions can and do happen in Israel but I can't see this one flying.
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 22, 2013 21:13:33 GMT
Yesh Atid+Labor+Shas+Meretz+Hatnua ? Couldn't happen, surely. Bizarre coalitions can and do happen in Israel but I can't see this one flying. It was being suggested as not impossible by some Israeli friends of mine. So what do we know about Yair Lapin apart from he's a bit of a Silver Fox, because he's just become quite important.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 22, 2013 23:19:33 GMT
Assuming accurate exit polls (heh) and using an average of them, seat changes on 2009:
Likud-Beiteinu -11 Yesh Atid n/a Labor +4 JH-NU +5 Shas +1 Meretz +4 Hatnuah n/a UTJ +1 Hadash = UAL-Ta'al - 1 Balad - 1 Kadima -28
Not the same as changes from the last Knesset as it was at dissolution, obviously.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 23, 2013 0:07:14 GMT
neither is reinventing the Holocaust No Palestinian state, let alone a Palestinian state that could actually be created, could militarily threaten Israel. So that wouldn't make the horror scenario more likely, especially since Israel will be able to reserve the most strategically important choke points for itself in peace negotiations, with strong US support. The lack of a Palestinian state both provides fewer grounds for Israel's neighbours to launch a co-ordinated attack (whilst not of course preventing such an eventuality) and increases the chances that the world will hem and haw until it's too late and the streets of Tel Aviv run red. And Israel really does not want to have to leave a couple of brigades dealing with stone-throwing kids in the West Bank when there are tank columns coming through the Sinai or the Golan Heights. In the short term (10-20 years) an independent state would be an annoying and expensive millstone round Israel's neck. In the long term, the bigger dangers are demographic trends and the increasing likelihood that the world stands back until it's too late.
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 23, 2013 11:23:26 GMT
Looks like it could be a 60-60 left/right tie overall. And it seems Kadima have scraped back in, somehow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 11:56:42 GMT
Looks like it could be a 60-60 left/right tie overall. And it seems Kadima have scraped back in, somehow. & more important totally b******d up my election game predictions ....
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Post by mboy on Jan 23, 2013 13:02:08 GMT
I came out somewhere between Hatnuah and Taal, which was something of a surprise, because I thought Israeli Labour's economic policy was much less left-wing than the quiz suggests. Either way, I'm pretty sure I'd still be backing Labour. I got exactly the same result. I expected to be nearer to Meretz, who I would usually have associated with. Maybe I would have been tempted by Hatunah... Tzipi Livni is kinda foxy
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Post by markgoodair on Jan 23, 2013 15:45:06 GMT
The savings that Israel could make on military spending if it made peace with its neighbours must be massive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 15:51:14 GMT
The savings that Israel could make on military spending if it made peace with its neighbours must be massive. Not sure that would be the case, the savings would accrue to the US Treasury if they didn't have to write all those credit notes....
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Post by Robert Waller on Jan 23, 2013 17:43:40 GMT
Looks like it could be a 60-60 left/right tie overall. And it seems Kadima have scraped back in, somehow. & more important totally b******d up my election game predictions .... Same here, Robin ... but it's the regional results that will decide the Game - and I cannot find these anywhere! Help! ... Andrea? ... help!
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Post by dizz on Jan 24, 2013 11:26:20 GMT
Final Israel election results indicate: Kadima will be in Knesset, Habayit Hayehudi to get 12 seats With 60% of the double-sealed ballots counted, it also appears that the United Arab List-Ta'al will shrink from five to four seats; final results expected later Thursday.
Taken from Haaretz just now - an unhelpful devepment re. HH & the UAL/Ta'al seats.
I recall the Palestinian parties lost a seat last time as well at this stage as a lot of these later votes are military/diplomatic.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 24, 2013 21:27:58 GMT
Arab parties, not Palestinian parties. Important distinction.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 24, 2013 21:29:13 GMT
Of course the UAL has an amusing amount in common with JH-NU, if we ignore the obvious.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 25, 2013 0:57:30 GMT
Results for the ten largest cities:
Jerusalem - UTJ 22%, L-B 21%, Shas 16%, HH 12%, YA 7%, Labor 7%, Meretz 4%, OL 3% Tel Aviv - YA 21%, L-B 18%, Labor 17%, Meretz 14%, H 7%, Shas 6%, HH 4% Haifa - L-B 26%, YA 18%, Labor 15%, H 7%, HH 6%, Meretz 5%, Hadash 5%, Shas 3%, UTJ 5% Rishon LeZion - L-B 31%, YA 23%, Labor 14%, H 7%, HH 7%, Shas 5%, Kadima 3% Petah Tikvah - L-B 29%, YA 18%, HH 13%, Labor 11%, Shas 7%, H 5%, UTJ 4% Ashdod - L-B 36%, Shas 17%, UTJ 10%, YA 10%, HH 7%, Labor 6%, H 4% Beersheba - L-B 38%, Shas 13%, HH 12%, YA 11%, Labor 8%, H 5% Holon - L-B 31%, YA 20%, Labor 13%, Shas 11%, H 6%, HH 6%, Kadima 3%, Meretz 3% Netanya - L-B 34%, YA 16%, Shas 11%, HH 11%, Labor 9% H 4%, UTJ 3% Bnei Brak - UTJ 60%, Shas 25%, L-B 4%, HH 4%
Probably a load of errors there, but, you know.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 25, 2013 1:20:26 GMT
Tel Aviv, Holon and Bnei Brak are all part of Tel Aviv District. Rishon LeZion and Petah Tikvah are both part of the wider Tel Aviv metropolitan area.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 27, 2013 13:29:15 GMT
Might be some errors; if so the map will be modified accordingly, etc.
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