iain
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Post by iain on Jun 20, 2022 23:50:56 GMT
Results by cities over 100K In Israel the only regions with a Centre-Left Jewish plurality/majority are TLV northern Suburbs & City of TLV  Do you have a version of this with the ultra-Orthodox interest group parties separated out from the right? |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 21, 2022 6:09:33 GMT
Results by cities over 100K In Israel the only regions with a Centre-Left Jewish plurality/majority are TLV northern Suburbs & City of TLV Do you have a version of this with the ultra-Orthodox interest group parties separated out from the right? I’ll make one when I’m home, But Bnei Brak is basically all Ultra-Orthodox, Jerusalem is like 40% ultra orthodox (I think) and Ashdod has a decent amount of them. I’ll also post the source here. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 22, 2022 15:01:09 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Jun 22, 2022 17:38:21 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Jun 22, 2022 17:40:16 GMT
Results by cities over 100K In Israel the only regions with a Centre-Left Jewish plurality/majority are TLV northern Suburbs & City of TLV Do you have a version of this with the ultra-Orthodox interest group parties separated out from the right? i made it but i cant upload it through Imgur for some reason..... The new version has 7 ideological columns (Arab,Left,Centre,Lieberman,Secular Right,religious right,Ultra Orthodox) instead of 4 (Arab,Centre-left,Lieberman,Centre-right) |
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 29, 2022 21:32:40 GMT
Bennett has announced he will not contest the forthcoming election.
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 30, 2022 9:30:55 GMT
Do you have a version of this with the ultra-Orthodox interest group parties separated out from the right? i made it but i cant upload it through Imgur for some reason..... The new version has 7 ideological columns (Arab,Left,Centre,Lieberman,Secular Right,religious right,Ultra Orthodox) instead of 4 (Arab,Centre-left,Lieberman,Centre-right) Couldn't You try it with anything else than Imgur? Would be appreciated. |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 3, 2022 5:11:39 GMT
i made it but i cant upload it through Imgur for some reason..... The new version has 7 ideological columns (Arab,Left,Centre,Lieberman,Secular Right,religious right,Ultra Orthodox) instead of 4 (Arab,Centre-left,Lieberman,Centre-right) Couldn't You try it with anything else than Imgur? Would be appreciated. do you have a recommendation? |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jul 3, 2022 17:31:45 GMT
Couldn't You try it with anything else than Imgur? Would be appreciated. do you have a recommendation? Mine requires an account. But for example imgbb.com |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 3, 2022 17:34:39 GMT
do you have a recommendation? Mine requires an account. But for example imgbb.comThanks! |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 3, 2022 17:40:13 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Jul 3, 2022 18:00:48 GMT
I don’t know about most cities, but Tel Aviv is very segregated politically. North (where I live) is suburban in nature and mostly upper middle class (specifically Barristers,Solicitors,Accountants and Bankers with the spouse working in the public sector or staying at home) families of Ashkenazi (traditionally Polish) decent who used to vote Labour until the the 2003 and since then mainly vote for centrist Liberal parties (much of the support is due to elitism and general distain for the Likud supporting Mizrahi working/middle class). Centre is mostly Left wing young hipster professionals who don’t actually make a lot of money and Gays. The South is very Mizrahi and Working class (mostly Moroccans) and as such vote Likud. |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 2, 2022 11:00:40 GMT
Channel 2 released a poll showing the Bibi bloc winning 63 seats (majority) and it goes up to 73 with under 25 year olds with RZ getting 2nd place..
Under 25 result compared to general result
Likud 34 (+1)
Religious Zionist 14 (+4)
Yesh Atid 13 (-10)
Blue & White 13 (+2)
UTJ 12 (+6)
Shas 11 (+3)
Joint List 7 (+1)
Labour 4 (0)
Raam 4 (0)
Meretz 3 (-1) (below threshold)
Zionist Spirit 2 (-2) (below threshold)
Yisrael Beiteinu 2 (-3) (below threshold)
Zelicha 1 (+1) (below threshold)
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 2, 2022 13:54:57 GMT
Channel 2 released a poll showing the Bibi bloc winning 63 seats (majority) and it goes up to 73 with under 25 year olds with RZ getting 2nd place.. Under 25 result compared to general result Likud 34 (+1) Religious Zionist 14 (+4) Yesh Atid 13 (-10) Blue & White 13 (+2) UTJ 12 (+6) Shas 11 (+3) Joint List 7 (+1) Labour 4 (0) Raam 4 (0) Meretz 3 (-1) (below threshold) Zionist Spirit 2 (-2) (below threshold) Yisrael Beiteinu 2 (-3) (below threshold) Zelicha 1 (+1) (below threshold) There have been a number of polls released, with which this one would be out of sync in terms of a clear Bibi bloc majority. Israeli Opinion Polls, which seem to be legion, are regularly inaccurate. Until the different party lists are in place, I wouldn't bother with them. Which polling company was it and when was it published? |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 2, 2022 14:04:08 GMT
Channel 2 released a poll showing the Bibi bloc winning 63 seats (majority) and it goes up to 73 with under 25 year olds with RZ getting 2nd place.. Under 25 result compared to general result Likud 34 (+1) Religious Zionist 14 (+4) Yesh Atid 13 (-10) Blue & White 13 (+2) UTJ 12 (+6) Shas 11 (+3) Joint List 7 (+1) Labour 4 (0) Raam 4 (0) Meretz 3 (-1) (below threshold) Zionist Spirit 2 (-2) (below threshold) Yisrael Beiteinu 2 (-3) (below threshold) Zelicha 1 (+1) (below threshold) There have been a number of polls released, with which this one would be out of sync in terms of a clear Bibi bloc majority. Israeli Opinion Polls, which seem to be legion, are regularly inaccurate. Until the different party lists are in place, I wouldn't bother with them. Which polling company was it and when was it published? this are the under 25 numbers, channel 12 published the poll (59 + 4 from Shaked), I would also note that 103FM also had a poll that showed the Bibi bloc with 61 with Shaked under the threshold (AKA 63 seats) |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 2, 2022 19:13:56 GMT
There have been a number of polls released, with which this one would be out of sync in terms of a clear Bibi bloc majority. Israeli Opinion Polls, which seem to be legion, are regularly inaccurate. Until the different party lists are in place, I wouldn't bother with them. Which polling company was it and when was it published? this are the under 25 numbers, channel 12 published the poll (59 + 4 from Shaked), I would also note that 103FM also had a poll that showed the Bibi bloc with 61 with Shaked under the threshold (AKA 63 seats) I am aware of the numbers being for under-25s, but my point is the same concerning Isreali oponion polling. I am not convinced that Shaked will side with Bibi as PM as not all of her faction would let her (if they do get over the threshold); if Bibi stands aside, a definite Likud-led government. |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 10, 2022 17:11:04 GMT
Just voted in the Likud primary.
Btw, the last non-“far left” MK in the Labour Party (Omer Bar-Lev) has been defeated and as such one would expect them to lose even more votes to B&W and YA.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 10, 2022 17:47:38 GMT
Just voted in the Likud primary. Btw, the last non-“far left” MK in the Labour Party (Omer Bar-Lev) has been defeated and as such one would expect them to lose even more votes to B&W and YA. How exactly are you defining the "far-left"? The shift seems to be an emphasis onto issues such as the cost of living and the housing - bread and butter for a party of the centre-left, and not driven by the personality cults evident in other parties. How is Gilad Kariv "far-left", or Naama Lazini? Yair Fink, formerly chief of staff for Shelly Yacimovich, and who also backed Ehud Barak when he left Labour, is a religious Zionist. There is a generational change, certainly, but a swing to the far-left - that is far off the mark. |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 10, 2022 18:15:18 GMT
Just voted in the Likud primary. Btw, the last non-“far left” MK in the Labour Party (Omer Bar-Lev) has been defeated and as such one would expect them to lose even more votes to B&W and YA. How exactly are you defining the "far-left"? The shift seems to be an emphasis onto issues such as the cost of living and the housing - bread and butter for a party of the centre-left, and not driven by the personality cults evident in other parties. How is Gilad Kariv "far-left", or Naama Lazini? Yair Fink, formerly chief of staff for Shelly Yacimovich, and who also backed Ehud Barak when he left Labour, is a religious Zionist. There is a generational change, certainly, but a swing to the far-left - that is far off the mark. I used far left in quotations for a reason, as it is more of a shift to members who ACT more militantly then Labour used to (Meretz was always the party with the militant MKs). 1.Barak was/is the most hated figure in Israeli politics and is widely viewed in Israel as someone who campaigned as a Third-way moderate but governed to the left of people like Peres and Rabin (and later lost by a landslide) 2.Michaeli herself is viewed as someone who ideologically belongs to Meretz and not Labour (a party that until a couple of years ago had a lot of social/cultural moderates who are now voting Gantz) 3.Kariv is pretty widely viewed as far left because of his beliefs about the separation of Synagogue and state and his affiliation with Reform Judaism (which basically has 0% support in Israel and is actively hated by a large majority of the population) 4.Raitan is viewed as a C tier celebrity who was basically on sick leave the entire year |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 10, 2022 18:32:23 GMT
Hopefully we get a new Netanyahu-Almost-Self-aware advert this year.
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