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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 25, 2021 15:41:47 GMT
It wouldn't be an Israeli election without this:
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Post by Strontium Dog on Mar 25, 2021 15:56:39 GMT
So uncertainty reigns supreme, again.
My Israeli cousin really does not like Netanyahu, and he has gone silent on Facebook since the result, which leads me to think he's not expecting good things.
I'm always surprised that he's so overt in his dislike of the guy, as his wife is Israel's deputy ambassador to India.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 25, 2021 16:10:40 GMT
So uncertainty reigns supreme, again. My Israeli cousin really does not like Netanyahu, and he has gone silent on Facebook since the result, which leads me to think he's not expecting good things. I'm always surprised that he's so overt in his dislike of the guy, as his wife is Israel's deputy ambassador to India. Well, given that half (at least) of his cabinet publicly can't stand him, it appears fairly normal.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 25, 2021 16:23:39 GMT
For what it is worth, which is probably little, Benni Gantz is probably the best chance of leading a new coalition as Premier. He would get Bennett out of his "never Lapid" hole and a rapprochement between the two wings of the old Blue and White is possible (got to say, Lapid has played a blinder in his refusal to be vengeful against Gantz) and they are a strong bloc, only a few seats behind Likud. Labour and Meretz would back a Gantz government, Sa'ar's New Hope is likely to, Lieberman will be delighted to see the back of Netanyahu and the Ultra-Orthodox parties. Joint List would not get in the way. Indeed, Ra'am is more likely to get something off Gantz and be able to point to being party of a right-wing bloc of MKs supporting the government (along with Yamina, Yisrael Beiteinu, New Hope). Gantz as a "Unity" Prime Minister would be a strong argument, and the surprisingly good showing for his party will help.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Mar 25, 2021 18:13:18 GMT
For what it is worth, which is probably little, Benni Gantz is probably the best chance of leading a new coalition as Premier. He would get Bennett out of his "never Lapid" hole and a rapprochement between the two wings of the old Blue and White is possible (got to say, Lapid has played a blinder in his refusal to be vengeful against Gantz) and they are a strong bloc, only a few seats behind Likud. Labour and Meretz would back a Gantz government, Sa'ar's New Hope is likely to, Lieberman will be delighted to see the back of Netanyahu and the Ultra-Orthodox parties. Joint List would not get in the way. Indeed, Ra'am is more likely to get something off Gantz and be able to point to being party of a right-wing bloc of MKs supporting the government (along with Yamina, Yisrael Beiteinu, New Hope). Gantz as a "Unity" Prime Minister would be a strong argument, and the surprisingly good showing for his party will help. The Islamist Ra'am is openly non committal. They may well back Netanyahu due to their desire to make Arabs more influential in Israeli government.
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Post by john07 on Mar 25, 2021 18:21:25 GMT
What is so bizarre about all this is that if Netanyahu wasn't personally on the scene, there is a very clear right wing majority and forming a government in terms of ideology wouldn't be at all difficult A case for tactical asassination by US Special Forces?
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 25, 2021 19:05:50 GMT
For what it is worth, which is probably little, Benni Gantz is probably the best chance of leading a new coalition as Premier. He would get Bennett out of his "never Lapid" hole and a rapprochement between the two wings of the old Blue and White is possible (got to say, Lapid has played a blinder in his refusal to be vengeful against Gantz) and they are a strong bloc, only a few seats behind Likud. Labour and Meretz would back a Gantz government, Sa'ar's New Hope is likely to, Lieberman will be delighted to see the back of Netanyahu and the Ultra-Orthodox parties. Joint List would not get in the way. Indeed, Ra'am is more likely to get something off Gantz and be able to point to being party of a right-wing bloc of MKs supporting the government (along with Yamina, Yisrael Beiteinu, New Hope). Gantz as a "Unity" Prime Minister would be a strong argument, and the surprisingly good showing for his party will help. The Islamist Ra'am is openly non committal. They may well back Netanyahu due to their desire to make Arabs more influential in Israeli government. Indeed, but, if Yamina goes against Netanhayu, Ra'am are no longer in such a strong position.
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Post by seanryanj on Mar 26, 2021 8:13:41 GMT
Polls kinda got it wrong for B&W and some of the smaller parties. It really is a mess any government that would be formed would be very unstable. Funny Netanyahu had it good with his broad coalition but he probably hated the thoughts of handing over PM position. I presume Likud won't send in the men in grey suits to ask him to stand aside for good of party and country?
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Post by John Chanin on Mar 26, 2021 8:43:53 GMT
Polls kinda got it wrong for B&W and some of the smaller parties. It really is a mess any government that would be formed would be very unstable. Funny Netanyahu had it good with his broad coalition but he probably hated the thoughts of handing over PM position. I presume Likud won't send in the men in grey suits to ask him to stand aside for good of party and country? It’s more the men in black frockcoats isn’t it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 18:09:34 GMT
What is happening at the moment ? or are we in that (now traditional) inter-election period ?
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 5, 2021 16:40:29 GMT
Netanyahu has failed to be able to form a government, consequently, Yair Lapid has been asked to try and form a government. He has 56 votes atm, he needs 61.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 5, 2021 22:11:43 GMT
Netanyahu has held a presser and condemned a possible Lapid/Bennett government as dangerously left wing. He has called for Bennett to vote for him instead. Bibi is not happy.👇🏻
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Post by iain on May 5, 2021 22:23:36 GMT
Imagine calling anything involving Naftali Bennett ‘dangerously left wing’ with a straight face.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 5, 2021 22:33:08 GMT
Bibi has just spent several weeks trying to form a government that included both the Religious Zionists and an islamist party. And it's worked as well as you would expect that to work.
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 6, 2021 8:29:36 GMT
Netanyahu has held a presser and condemned a possible Lapid/Bennett government as dangerously left wing. He has called for Bennett to vote for him instead. Bibi is not happy.👇🏻 Especially given that he is presently in government with Blue and White and the Labor Party. Netanyahu has no sense of irony...or decency, for that matter.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on May 6, 2021 17:42:53 GMT
Rumours that members of Bennett's party may defect to the Likud side to prevent a 'left' government.
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Post by rcronald on Jul 22, 2021 8:52:53 GMT
Results by cities over 100K In Israel the only regions with a Centre-Left Jewish plurality/majority are TLV northern Suburbs & City of TLV
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Post by johnloony on Jun 20, 2022 23:14:09 GMT
If Israel wants political stability then perhaps they should adopt the French parliamentary election system.
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