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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 17, 2012 20:22:57 GMT
Pasok reasoning is allegedly "PASOK considers citizens have downvoted the party’s policies therefore it can not join a pure ND-PASOK government" that sounds quite honourable ... Of course it sounds quite honourable. They are hardly going to say "We really should go into government but if we prop up a conservative government our last shred of credibility on the left will be gone for good" |
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 17, 2012 20:42:52 GMT
Anyone know where the Greek regional results are being / may be announced?
Thanks
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 17, 2012 20:57:25 GMT
I know, I know. Wont it be great if Greece beat Germany? Football will mimic life. Germany will hump Greece. FC Bayern München Germany looked a bit ropey against Denmark this evening. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 20:59:49 GMT
I know, I know. Wont it be great if Greece beat Germany? Football will mimic life. Germany will hump Greece. FC Bayern München Germany looked a bit ropey against Denmark this evening. did what they had to qualify |
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 17, 2012 21:06:07 GMT
80.9% of districts reporting
ND: 130 (+22)
Syriza: 71 (+19)
Pasok: 33 (-8)
IG: 20 (-13)
GD: 18 (-3)
DL: 16 (-3)
KKE: 12 (-14)
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 17, 2012 21:24:30 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 18, 2012 6:02:29 GMT
The Asian markets have risen on the result.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 18, 2012 8:32:53 GMT
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 18, 2012 11:49:40 GMT
Syriza not joining a government in any circumstances. After meeting with Samaras this is what Tsipras had to say
"I will not join a coalition government. I told Samaras that it would be a catastrophe to continue with cuts to wages and pensions. Democracy must resist violent acts [two hand grenades were thrown at Skai TV building yesterday]. We have very difficult moments until June 28 [EU leaders' summit]. We now have better [bailout] negotiation opportunities. Greece must take advantage of this. We respect the election result.
A government must be formed based on New Democracy because that is what the people wanted - but they will be judged by the people. Country must have a government tonight. We will be a powerful opposition, we will control government. Whoever takes the responsibility to form a government, takes the responsibility to negotiate [bailout]. We will not use mandate if Samaras fails to form a coalition government."
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Post by john07 on Jun 18, 2012 13:21:06 GMT
Syriza not joining a government in any circumstances. After meeting with Samaras this is what Tsipras had to say "I will not join a coalition government. I told Samaras that it would be a catastrophe to continue with cuts to wages and pensions. Democracy must resist violent acts [two hand grenades were thrown at Skai TV building yesterday]. We have very difficult moments until June 28 [EU leaders' summit]. We now have better [bailout] negotiation opportunities. Greece must take advantage of this. We respect the election result. A government must be formed based on New Democracy because that is what the people wanted - but they will be judged by the people. Country must have a government tonight. We will be a powerful opposition, we will control government. Whoever takes the responsibility to form a government, takes the responsibility to negotiate [bailout]. We will not use mandate if Samaras fails to form a coalition government." PASOK are understandably reluctant to go into coalition with New Democracy unless Syriza are also involved. However there seems little option but a PASOK-ND Government.. It all depends if the Democratic Left will at least support the coalition. It is probably fair that the two parties who created the situation should be charged with clearing it up. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 18, 2012 15:48:25 GMT
It would seem that the Lady's not for turning. Merkel says
- New Greek government has to fulfull the commitments Greece has made to its international lenders
- Expects quick formation of new, stable government in Greece
- Cannot accept any loosening on agreed reform pledges in Greece after election
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 19, 2012 14:27:57 GMT
Think you'll find that things were a little more complicated than that.
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 20, 2012 12:28:22 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Sept 5, 2012 18:53:11 GMT
Make the buggers work 6 days a week says the IMF.
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 5, 2012 21:09:14 GMT
Which I don't particularly understand the value of. Surely if workers switch to a 6-day week, all that will happen is that each worker will produce extra output, and as a result firms will just lay off staff that they no longer require thanks to the increase in marginal productivity of their remaining employees. So, no extra growth, and even more unemployment...
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Post by thetop on Sept 5, 2012 23:55:20 GMT
Were you expecting sensible suggestions from the IMF?
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Post by john07 on Sept 6, 2012 1:17:53 GMT
Which I don't particularly understand the value of. Surely if workers switch to a 6-day week, all that will happen is that each worker will produce extra output, and as a result firms will just lay off staff that they no longer require thanks to the increase in marginal productivity of their remaining employees. So, no extra growth, and even more unemployment... This 6-day week stuff is complete bullsh*t. The suggestion is for flexiblity in the Labour market as is the case in the UK. |
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Post by iainbhx on Sept 9, 2012 7:32:51 GMT
New Greek Opinion Poll (7/9/12)
SYRIZA 30%
ND 28%
Golden Dawn 12%
PASOK 7%
Independent Greeks 7%
KKE 6%
Democratic Left 4%
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 9, 2012 11:22:12 GMT
Those percentages for both GD and PASOK are pretty shocking  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 9, 2012 12:17:25 GMT
12% for Golden Shower is beyond horrific, especially when you realise that there's a good chance that the number will keep on rising. As for PASOK, what you need to remember is that the party was essentially a personalist and (increasingly) patronage machine without much in the way of deep roots; the socialist label was very much a flag of convenience. Under the circumstances...
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