Greek Election 2012

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more extensive exit poll gets ND 1.5% ahead on 127 seats with the bonus and with Pasok could have a two party majority coalition.

[iainbhx]

Second exit poll indicates ND has it by a small margin over Syriza

New Democracy: 28.6-30% SYRIZA: 27.5-28.4% PASOK: 11-12.4% Golden Dawn: 6.5-7.1% IndGreeks 6.8-7.8 DemLeft 5.8-6.6 KKE 4.8-5.6

I see Westerwelle has opened his big flapping cakehole as well...

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after 18% reported

PARTY PCT. VOTES CHANGE
MAY '12
ND 31,02% 287.324 12,2%
SYRIZA 25,47% 235.887 8,7%
PASOK 13,46% 124.682 0,3%
INDEPENDENT GREEKS 7,26% 67.215 -3,4%
GOLDEN DAWN 6,83% 63.220 -0,1%
DIMAR 5,92% 54.839 -0,2%

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Andrew Neil
The joys of PR and coalitions. Pasok comes a pathetic third but could still be in government.

[john07]

Jun 17, 2012 17:48:47 GMT @ianrobo said:

Andrew Neil
The joys of PR and coalitions. Pasok comes a pathetic third but could still be in government.

How very different to the UK!

[erlend]

For the benefit of those who want I will give the ministry of the interior election result site. It seemed to be useful last time.

ekloges.ypes.gr/v2012b/public/index.html#{%22cls%22:%22main%22,%22params%22:{}}

[marksenior]

ND are going to win quite comfortably IMO . Of course under the UK FPTP system they would probably have had a landslide overall majority .

[erlend]

I think I agree with Ian although there is a distinct under reporting from say Athens B (the site says V but I am a classicist and know that a Beta is really a B whatever the degenerate modern language thinks!) which will narrow things somewhat

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just some comments

Blimey, PASOK. Refusing to join a gvmnt without SYRIZA. Very sensible from their political point of view, but makes things, er, interesting.

Telling exit poll stat: Syriza leads among 18-34s AND 35-54s. If center-right wins, will be entirely due to seniors: bit.ly/IxZZbb

[marksenior]

Jun 17, 2012 18:04:49 GMT erlend said:

For the benefit of those who want I will give the ministry of the interior election result site. It seemed to be useful last time.

ekloges.ypes.gr/v2012b/public/index.html#{%22cls%22:%22main%22,%22params%22:{}}

It is all Greek to me but there is a version in English .

[Deleted]

someone summed it up nicely

SYRIZA says no coalition. New Democracy says grand coalition. PASOK says will only work if SYRIZA is in. See you in 6 weeks

[Arthur Figgis]

Scorchio!

[Pimpernal]

PASOK could reject the bailout and go with Syriza

[erlend]

Jun 17, 2012 18:44:25 GMT @ianrobo said:

someone summed it up nicely

SYRIZA says no coalition. New Democracy says grand coalition. PASOK says will only work if SYRIZA is in. See you in 6 weeks

When is the next tranche of money due to be handed over to Greece's debtors (owners?). I think another GE might be on the wrong side of that. And I don't think Mutti will play ball. Fartheless as Iain says the CSU and FDP.

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then Erlend someone has to make a strong decision

[Richard Allen]

Jun 17, 2012 18:44:25 GMT @ianrobo said:

someone summed it up nicely

SYRIZA says no coalition. New Democracy says grand coalition. PASOK says will only work if SYRIZA is in. See you in 6 weeks

PASOK might well be bluffing. They seemed happy to go with ND before, can't see why they won't now.

[erlend]

Been following the margin for the last half hour.

At 21.20 it was 4.76% and 82127
At 21.50 it was 4.41% and 100391 (40.22% of districts reported

So it appears thatthe later districts are being less good for ND but they are still winning them.

The seat figures are also now up. The one that did not work in May of ND/Pasok now has the seats but Ian reports no longer the political will, The right wing coalition with the Independent Greeks does currently have 151/300 but I suspect these later results will kill that off. Anyway that is non meeting of minds on the debts.

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Lol RT @tconnellyrte: BREAKING: Tsipras has called Samaras to congratulate him, declined to take part in coalition, urged ND to form govt

PASOK calling for an immediate government of national unity for a country deeply divided in a continent on the verge of panic...

[The Bishop]

Jun 17, 2012 18:58:35 GMT Richard Allen said:

Jun 17, 2012 18:44:25 GMT @ianrobo said:

someone summed it up nicely

SYRIZA says no coalition. New Democracy says grand coalition. PASOK says will only work if SYRIZA is in. See you in 6 weeks

PASOK might well be bluffing. They seemed happy to go with ND before, can't see why they won't now.

Because it might finally finish them off? How low can their support go before they are no longer viable as a "big" party??

[Richard Allen]

Based on current figures

ND: 131 (+23)
Syriza: 69 (+17)
Pasok: 34 (-7)
IG: 20 (-13)
GD: 18 (-3)
DL: 16 (-3)
KKE: 12 (-14)