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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 8:05:29 GMT
Incidentally I can't quite get my head round Higham Ferrers being in Northamptonshire. That name sounds like it belongs in Devon, or maybe Dorset... West Country, anyway, not the bloody East Midlands. I agree that Higham Ferrers sounds out of place in Northants, but it wouldn't seem right around these parts either. I think it should be located 'higher' up the road from South Woodham Ferrers in Essex, in a posher and more remote part of that county. I suspect I was being influenced by Bere Ferrers which is Devon I think, and had forgotten South Woodham Ferrers entirely even though I lived in south Essex for a couple of years, not that far away. Wretched family obviously had connections all over the place. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 5, 2018 8:09:04 GMT
I agree that Higham Ferrers sounds out of place in Northants, but it wouldn't seem right around these parts either. I think it should be located 'higher' up the road from South Woodham Ferrers in Essex, in a posher and more remote part of that county. I suspect I was being influenced by Bere Ferrers which is Devon I think, and had forgotten South Woodham Ferrers entirely even though I lived in south Essex for a couple of years, not that far away. Wretched family obviously had connections all over the place. "Ham" as place-name suffix is generally "southern" (being anglo-saxon) rather than e.g. "by" which is "northern" and Old Norse. Which rather neatly dovetails with the "where is the north?" discussion, corroborating the idea that it starts in Northants. |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 9:03:58 GMT
North Norfolk DC, Worstead Ward,
Conservative resigned
3 candidates:
Saul Michael Penfold (Lib Dem)
Robin Russell-Pavier (Con)
David Gregory Spencer (Lab)
2003 election results: LD 372, Con 333
2007 election results: LD 555, Con 369
2011 election results: LD 465, Con 287, Lab 159, Green 84
2015 election results: Con 597, LD 475, Green 180, Lab 175
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Feb 5, 2018 9:12:47 GMT
I suspect I was being influenced by Bere Ferrers which is Devon I think, and had forgotten South Woodham Ferrers entirely even though I lived in south Essex for a couple of years, not that far away. Wretched family obviously had connections all over the place. "Ham" as place-name suffix is generally "southern" (being anglo-saxon) rather than e.g. "by" which is "northern" and Old Norse. Which rather neatly dovetails with the "where is the north?" discussion, corroborating the idea that it starts in Northants. Or maybe the south starts in Durham, or Nottingham? Or perhaps the north begins in Northwood? I live in the middle of England, where does that start and end? |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 5, 2018 9:35:38 GMT
"Ham" as place-name suffix is generally "southern" (being anglo-saxon) rather than e.g. "by" which is "northern" and Old Norse. Which rather neatly dovetails with the "where is the north?" discussion, corroborating the idea that it starts in Northants. Or maybe the south starts in Durham, or Nottingham? Or perhaps the north begins in Northwood? I live in the middle of England, where does that start and end? The middle of England is a state of mind. And it never ends. |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 9:38:41 GMT
Or maybe the south starts in Durham, or Nottingham? Or perhaps the north begins in Northwood? I live in the middle of England, where does that start and end? The middle of England is a state of mind. And it never ends. ask middleenglander |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 9:46:55 GMT
I suspect I was being influenced by Bere Ferrers which is Devon I think, and had forgotten South Woodham Ferrers entirely even though I lived in south Essex for a couple of years, not that far away. Wretched family obviously had connections all over the place. "Ham" as place-name suffix is generally "southern" (being anglo-saxon) rather than e.g. "by" which is "northern" and Old Norse. Which rather neatly dovetails with the "where is the north?" discussion, corroborating the idea that it starts in Northants. East Anglia also has a fair number of Norse names-  |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 9:47:31 GMT
North-East Derbyshire DC, Grassmoor Ward (note correct spelling!)
Labour resigned
3 candidates:
Josh Broadhurst (Con)
Dick Marriot (Lab)
Ben Marshall (LD)
2003 Labour x2 unopp.
2007 election results: Lab 760/677, Con 218
2011 election results: Lab 928/891, Con 230/212
2015 election results: Lab 1103/901, UKIP 439, Con 319/275
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 5, 2018 9:59:43 GMT
North-East Derbyshire DC, Grassmoor Ward (note correct spelling!) Labour resigned3 candidates:Josh Broadhurst (Con)Dick Marriot (Lab)Ben Marshall (Lab) 2 Labour candidates opposing each other? Surely not. |
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Post by iain on Feb 5, 2018 10:04:20 GMT
North-East Derbyshire DC, Grassmoor Ward (note correct spelling!) Labour resigned3 candidates:Josh Broadhurst (Con)Dick Marriot (Lab)Ben Marshall (Lab) 2 Labour candidates opposing each other? Surely not. Marshall is a Lib Dem. |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 10:15:29 GMT
North-East Derbyshire DC, Grassmoor Ward (note correct spelling!) Labour resigned3 candidates:Josh Broadhurst (Con)Dick Marriot (Lab)Ben Marshall (Lab) 2 Labour candidates opposing each other? Surely not. thank you! corrected now- though a LibDem standing here is only slightly less unlikely than two Labour  |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 10:50:41 GMT
Teignbridge DC Chudleigh Ward
Conservative resigned
3 candidates:
Pam Elliot (Con)
Lorraine Margaret Evans (Lib Dem)
Janette Parker (Lab)
2003 election results: Ind 645/566, LD 570/423, Con 399/371(L.Evans)
2007 election results: Ind 1120/597, Con 909(L.Evans), LD 799
2011 election results: Con 889 (L.Evans),Ind 884/561, LD 500, Lab 475
2015 election results: Con 1308/1159, Ind 985/592 (L.Evans)/516, Lab 597, Green 585, LD 508
Dec 2016 by-election: LD 680, Con 470, UKIP 89, Lab 81
note- in order to try and clarify these rather confusing results , I have emboldened the successful candidates' results. You will note Lorraine Evans rather interesting progression.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 5, 2018 10:54:04 GMT
... though a LibDem standing here is only slightly less unlikely than two Labour Still good to see. |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 11:10:16 GMT
Teignbridge DC Dawlish Central and North-East Ward
Conservative resigned
2 candidates:
Angela Rosina Fenne (Con)
Martin Wrigley (Lib Dem)
2003 election results: Con 1020/985/946, LD 1010/946/866, Lab 317
2007 election results: Con 1221/1214/1169, LD 1106/1022/953
2011 election results: Con 1197/1095/1041, Ind 1129/1065, LD 599/569/535
2015 election results: Con 1687/1645/1406, LD 1295/1274, Ind 940/817/687, Green 858, Lab 827
Again, I have emboldened the successful candidates.
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 11:11:03 GMT
... though a LibDem standing here is only slightly less unlikely than two Labour Still good to see. indeed |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 5, 2018 11:19:44 GMT
2 Labour candidates opposing each other? Surely not. thank you! corrected now- though a LibDem standing here is only slightly less unlikely than two Labour Well you say that, but then have a look at the electoral history of the neighbouring ward of Holmewood & Heath |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 12:13:28 GMT
thank you! corrected now- though a LibDem standing here is only slightly less unlikely than two Labour Well you say that, but then have a look at the electoral history of the neighbouring ward of Holmewood & Heath I haven't yet looked back at the last century but looking at the last 4 elections I am somewhat bemused by that comment. Edit : I have now been back through the R&T records and even more bemused. What am I looking for? |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 5, 2018 12:26:21 GMT
Tendring BC, St Pauls Ward
UKIP sitting as Independent resigned
7 candidates:
Stephen Bradley Andrews (Ind)
Robert John George Cockroft (Green)
William Anthony Edward Hones (Ind)
Sue Honeywood (Con)
Rosie-Roella Kevlin (Lab)
Keith James Stuart Malcolm Pitkin (LD)
Mike Vaughan-Chatfield (UKIP)
2003 election results: Con 793/701, Lab 239/219, LD 177/154
2007 election results: TF 1106/1086, Con 440/384
2011 election results: TF 945/928, Con 680/618
2015 election results: UKIP 940/760, Con 838/611, TF 766/754
note: TF = Tendring First
May 2016 by-election UKIP 424, Con 311, Ind (Hones) 248, Lab 148
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 5, 2018 12:29:35 GMT
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 5, 2018 12:44:56 GMT
"Ham" as place-name suffix is generally "southern" (being anglo-saxon) rather than e.g. "by" which is "northern" and Old Norse. Which rather neatly dovetails with the "where is the north?" discussion, corroborating the idea that it starts in Northants. East Anglia also has a fair number of Norse names- Guthrum's kingdom, of course. But apart from East Anglia (and perhaps that scattering just over Watling Street into Warwickshire) I don't think that is such a bad approximation for the north-south divide, assuming we're not allowing the midlands as a separate entity. Its my feeling that the slight tendency of the east midlands to feel "northern" and the west midlands a bit more "southern" fits too. (Thanks for the map, I was looking for something similar.) |
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