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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 30, 2012 1:24:09 GMT
LDs third and Tories in fourth only 3 votes ahead of the Peace Party.
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Post by YL on Nov 30, 2012 1:34:00 GMT
Andy McDonald (Lab) 10201 (60.5%)
Richard Elvin (UKIP) 1990 (11.8%)
George Selmer (Lib Dem) 1672 (9.9%)
Ben Houchen (Con) 1063 (6.3%)
Imdad Hussain (Peace Party) 1060 (6.3%)
Peter Foreman (BNP) 328 (1.9%)
John Malcolm (TUSC) 277 (1.6%)
Mark Heslehurst (Ind) 275 (1.6%)
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 30, 2012 2:54:30 GMT
Middlesborough had far less coverage than the other two elections have had, but UKIP still managed to get into second here. Must be by far the best ever result for the Peace Party in a parliamentary election, don't think they've ever even held a deposit before.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2012 6:26:18 GMT
A surprisingly good showing for the Peace Party. Respect might have been better off standing here than in Croydon North.
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Post by markgoodair on Nov 30, 2012 10:00:39 GMT
What was the Turnout?
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Post by Andrew_S on Nov 30, 2012 10:15:41 GMT
26%, the same as Croydon N. It was 33% in Rotherham. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 30, 2012 10:23:21 GMT
Probably the best Labour performance of the 3. Also the best for the LDs (in raw terms its a bad result for them, but under the circumstances comfortably holding their deposit will be good news) and UKIP will be absiolutely delighted to have got second here. In fact, under the circumstances the only ones who will be disappointed by the result will be the Conservatives and the BNP.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2012 10:32:05 GMT
Picking Mallon's mate worked eh ?
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 30, 2012 11:09:15 GMT
A surprisingly good showing for the Peace Party. Respect might have been better off standing here than in Croydon North Is it fair to say it was something of a "Respect" type vote?? Notable that the TUSC performed dismally here and in Rotherham (like the Communist in Croydon) Orthodox ultra-leftism is going nowhere at the minute, despite the opportunities you might think were afforded by both the economic crisis post-2008 and the general disdain for "traditional" politics. Maybe one of this boards "Socialists" might care to comment? |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 30, 2012 12:06:54 GMT
A surprisingly good showing for the Peace Party. Respect might have been better off standing here than in Croydon North Is it fair to say it was something of a "Respect" type vote?? Notable that the TUSC performed dismally here and in Rotherham (like the Communist in Croydon) Orthodox ultra-leftism is going nowhere at the minute, despite the opportunities you might think were afforded by both the economic crisis post-2008 and the general disdain for "traditional" politics. Maybe one of this boards "Socialists" might care to comment? I think ten minutes reading the entertainingly named Socialist Unity website will explain why the ultras have no appeal. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 30, 2012 12:11:09 GMT
I have done that, you know - and had to take a stiff drink afterwards  |
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Post by Richard Allen on Nov 30, 2012 12:11:57 GMT
Probably the best Labour performance of the 3. Also the best for the LDs (in raw terms its a bad result for them, but under the circumstances comfortably holding their deposit will be good news) and UKIP will be absiolutely delighted to have got second here. In fact, under the circumstances the only ones who will be disappointed by the result will be the Conservatives and the BNP. Second here was a fantastic result for us, especially given the heavy focus on Rotherham which drained activists away from this seat. |
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Post by iainbhx on Nov 30, 2012 13:00:52 GMT
I have done that, you know - and had to take a stiff drink afterwards They talk about real relevant issues to the working classes vanguards of the proletariat like Gaza, Gaza, Gaza and if someone who isn't in their sect is a Macyite or not. Oh and denouncing people for not hating America enough. I go on there when I need a good laugh. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 30, 2012 16:58:23 GMT
Notable that the TUSC performed dismally here and in Rotherham (like the Communist in Croydon) Orthodox ultra-leftism is going nowhere at the minute, The Communist Party of Britain is hardly "ultra-left". It adheres to the parliamentary revisionist path of the "British Road to Socialism", and is devoid of any mention of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. |
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Post by Tangent on Nov 30, 2012 18:45:18 GMT
A surprisingly good showing for the Peace Party. Respect might have been better off standing here than in Croydon North Is it fair to say it was something of a "Respect" type vote?? Notable that the TUSC performed dismally here and in Rotherham (like the Communist in Croydon) Orthodox ultra-leftism is going nowhere at the minute, despite the opportunities you might think were afforded by both the economic crisis post-2008 and the general disdain for "traditional" politics. Maybe one of this boards "Socialists" might care to comment? As an outsider, one of the reasons is that the far left doesn't seem to have got back on the radar as a popular anti-establishment voice in the way the far right has. Immigration is an issue that allows the far right to link their own ideological preoccupations with popular concerns and worries. The left doesn't have a similar bridging issue, apart from inequality - and that has much less traction at present, although more than it did before the financial crisis. |
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Post by john07 on Dec 5, 2012 15:24:43 GMT
Notable that the TUSC performed dismally here and in Rotherham (like the Communist in Croydon) Orthodox ultra-leftism is going nowhere at the minute, despite the opportunities you might think were afforded by both the economic crisis post-2008 and the general disdain for "traditional" politics. Is it a major surprise. The ultra left in the UK have not really focussed on electoral politics for many years. You have to go back to 1945 for significant showings by parties to the left of Labour (ILP and CPGB) if you disregard the George Galloway fan club). The Ultra Left have only succeeded in electoral politics when they have worked through Labour. No doubt things would be different under some sort of PR. I would guess that maybe a local varient of the Scandinavian left socialist parties would emerge. However this has not happened in Wales. It looked like it might happen in Scotland with the SSP until Sheridan totally blew the chance. Besides TUSC have no credible members (from a political perspective) and have a stupid name. |
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