Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 4, 2018 23:39:34 GMT
I love how extremely inaccurate those ideology boxes are though, lol.
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andrea
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Post by andrea on Mar 4, 2018 23:40:00 GMT
Just a warning of sorts, but early projections are sometimes even worse than exit polls! No, nothing is worse than exit polls. Apart opinion polls. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 4, 2018 23:45:17 GMT
On those seat projections, and if 5 Star can be taken at their word that they would not agree any coalition, the only option is a grand coalition - but that sounds improbable. Can't imagine PDs getting together with Lega. La Stampa tomorrow has a headline saying Italy is ungovernable.
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Post by andrea on Mar 4, 2018 23:48:01 GMT
Rai and Mediaset first projections (low coverage, 5-7%)
PD a bit better but still below 20% (Mediaset's projection have them just above it)
Lega a bit worse but still above FI
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 5, 2018 0:00:06 GMT
On those seat projections, and if 5 Star can be taken at their word that they would not agree any coalition, the only option is a grand coalition - but that sounds improbable. Can't imagine PDs getting together with Lega. La Stampa tomorrow has a headline saying Italy is ungovernable.A headline they must keep warm for every Italian election....  |
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Post by andrea on Mar 5, 2018 0:07:35 GMT
Projection for Mediaset (50% coverage of sampled polling stations) for Senate
Pd: 18,7%
+Europa: 2,4%
FI: 14,2%
Lega: 16,0%
FdI: 4%
NcI: 1,2%
M5S: 32,8%
LeU: 3,6%
Projection for Rai (coverage 16%) for Senate
Pd: 19,1%
+Europa: 2,5%
Altri Csx: 1,4%
FI: 14,5%
Lega: 16,0%
FdI: 4,2%
NcI: 1,3%
M5S: 32,2%
LeU: 3,5%
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 5, 2018 0:17:29 GMT
There are separate male and female lines? Popular Northern Italian saying "Africa begins south of Rome". Not any more. It has moved a lot to the north. |
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Post by andrea on Mar 5, 2018 0:19:42 GMT
La7 projection for Senate (60% coverage)
Centre right 37.4
5 Stars 32.3
Centre left 22.9 (PD up at 18.9%)
Free and Equal 3.3%
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 0:24:02 GMT
Popular Northern Italian saying "Africa begins south of Rome". Not any more. It has moved a lot to the north. Hence the gains for Berlusconi and FiveStar. |
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Post by mboy on Mar 5, 2018 0:25:16 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 5, 2018 0:26:53 GMT
but the border in North London is very similar to Northern Ireland so I hear.... "Wot', sarff uf z'river thiss toim o' noight...........I shud co-co!" |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 5, 2018 0:30:24 GMT
La7 projection for Senate (60% coverage) Centre right 37.4 5 Stars 32.3 Centre left 22.9 (PD up at 18.9%) Free and Equal 3.3% 37.4 - a little bit higher than before, perhaps enough? By the way: Why have the Salvini-LN and FdI not merged? Is Mrs.Meloni too popular or the separatism or the tradition too strong? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 5, 2018 0:39:52 GMT
but the border in North London is very similar to Northern Ireland so I hear.... "Wot', sarff uf z'river thiss toim o' noight...........I shud co-co!" I didn't know Dick Van Dyke was a taxi driver. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 5, 2018 0:40:06 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 5, 2018 1:17:34 GMT
"Wot', sarff uf z'river thiss toim o' noight...........I shud co-co!" I didn't know Dick Van Dyke was a taxi driver. Oh! He would have been. As Dick Van Driver. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 5, 2018 1:25:35 GMT
Counting levels vary up and down the land so caution is needed, but from the Senate figures so far we can be sure of one thing: MS5 has absolutely crushed it in the South.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 5, 2018 2:46:39 GMT
No constituencies called yet, nearly 5 hours after polls closed...  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 5, 2018 3:33:53 GMT
MidRight is so far behind in the South and FI won't win more FPTP-seats than LN in the North (or were these distributed so inequally in favour of FI? I don't think so), what means, that LN will be the strongest faction (clearer ahead than in 1994).
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Post by Foggy on Mar 5, 2018 6:37:17 GMT
We're at last starting to get FPTP results in now. The 5-star Movement have taken the Aosta Valley lower house seat by 170 votes. A prominent member of that same party, Roberto Fico, has taken Naples Fuorigrotta with 57.6% of the vote. They've also pretty easily won Palermo Settecannoni, whilst the Lega have won Montebelluna and Verona in the Veneto.
A Senate seat in Trentino-South Tyrol appears to have gone to the centre-left bloc (presumably to the SVP).
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 5, 2018 8:51:06 GMT
A Senate seat in Trentino-South Tyrol appears to have gone to the centre-left bloc (presumably to the SVP). I'm still chortling at the thought of the SVP in the centre-left bloc. |
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