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Post by johnloony on Jan 18, 2018 14:00:13 GMT
The poll includes a number of options with which I am not familiar, and which are not even in the list of Italian political parties on Wikipedia. They keep changing more and more rapidly and I can't keep up.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 18, 2018 14:03:02 GMT
The poll includes a number of options with which I am not familiar, and which are not even in the list of Italian political parties on Wikipedia. They keep changing more and more rapidly and I can't keep up. Brothers of Italy are the old National Alliance (formerly MSI). Obviously you are familiar with the Lega and Forza and with the 5 Star movement. All the others are Communists more or less so you can ignore them |
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Post by warofdreams on Jan 18, 2018 14:34:52 GMT
Hardly, they're hugely diverse. Only Power to the People is mostly communists, though apparently modeled on Momentum, hard to see how that might work. So far as I can tell, Free and Equal is a coalition of socialist groups, to the left of the Democratic Party, as is Together. CasaPound is a rather odd sounding neo-fascist group. Us with Italy is a pro-Berlusconi right-wing coalition. Popular Civic List is a centre-left Christian coalition. More Europe is a pro-European liberal group. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 18, 2018 14:50:22 GMT
Hardly, they're hugely diverse. Only Power to the People is mostly communists, though apparently modeled on Momentum, hard to see how that might work. So far as I can tell, Free and Equal is a coalition of socialist groups, to the left of the Democratic Party, as is Together. CasaPound is a rather odd sounding neo-fascist group. Us with Italy is a pro-Berlusconi right-wing coalition. Popular Civic List is a centre-left Christian coalition. More Europe is a pro-European liberal group. Casa Pound appear to be some sort of fascist anarchists, if that makes any sense at all. (actually, come to think of it, a few others fit that bill) |
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Post by spqr on Jan 18, 2018 15:01:10 GMT
Hardly, they're hugely diverse. Only Power to the People is mostly communists, though apparently modeled on Momentum, hard to see how that might work. So far as I can tell, Free and Equal is a coalition of socialist groups, to the left of the Democratic Party, as is Together. CasaPound is a rather odd sounding neo-fascist group. Us with Italy is a pro-Berlusconi right-wing coalition. Popular Civic List is a centre-left Christian coalition. More Europe is a pro-European liberal group. Casa Pound appear to be some sort of fascist anarchists, if that makes any sense at all. (actually, come to think of it, a few others fit that bill) They've named themselves after Ezra Pound, of all people. If pieandmash was still contributing he would probably have been able to tell us a bit about them, given their explicit avowal of the Terza Posizione. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 18, 2018 15:08:54 GMT
Casa Pound appear to be some sort of fascist anarchists, if that makes any sense at all. (actually, come to think of it, a few others fit that bill) They've named themselves after Ezra Pound, of all people. If pieandmash was still contributing he would probably been able to tell us a bit about them, given their explicit avowal of the Terza Posizione. might know something about them, not seen him for a while sadly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 19:01:59 GMT
Casa Pound’s Party logo is basically a Nazi flag with a turtle instead of a Swastika. They don’t hide who they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 19:04:37 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll
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Post by iain on Jan 18, 2018 19:13:50 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll That’s what I did too. There can’t be many countries with as many options as Italy, all of which are so unpalatable. |
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Post by Trab on Jan 18, 2018 19:22:34 GMT
Free and Equal, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 19:23:52 GMT
Casa Pound’s Party logo is basically a Nazi flag with a turtle instead of a Swastika. They don’t hide who they are. Mutant Ninja National Socialist Turtles..☺ |
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Post by Jack on Jan 18, 2018 19:25:25 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll That’s what I did too. There can’t be many countries with as many options as Italy, all of which are so unpalatable. I honestly can't pick one. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 18, 2018 20:46:12 GMT
Hardly, they're hugely diverse. Only Power to the People is mostly communists, though apparently modeled on Momentum, hard to see how that might work. So far as I can tell, Free and Equal is a coalition of socialist groups, to the left of the Democratic Party, as is Together. CasaPound is a rather odd sounding neo-fascist group. Us with Italy is a pro-Berlusconi right-wing coalition. Popular Civic List is a centre-left Christian coalition. More Europe is a pro-European liberal group. Casa Pound appear to be some sort of fascist anarchists, if that makes any sense at all. (actually, come to think of it, a few others fit that bill) Rome hosts an (in)famous "casa POUND", a neo-fascistic centre, perhaps occupied illegally, certainly supported once by mayor Alemanno. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 18, 2018 21:58:36 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll Why? I place you as Lega Nord. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 22:07:13 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll Why? I place you as Lega Nord. Normally I probably would, but I’m uncomfortable with their alliance, they call it a”protocol” with United Russia. Furthermore, a 5 Star victory will hasten the demise of the EU despotism. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 18, 2018 22:20:43 GMT
Why? I place you as Lega Nord. Normally I probably would, but I’m uncomfortable with their alliance, they call it a”protocol” with United Russia. Furthermore, a 5 Star victory will hasten the demise of the EU despotism. I can see the tactical point. And the protocol has appeal for me as a Russophile and 'Big Russia' supporter who dislikes the Stans. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 18, 2018 22:20:51 GMT
Shocked to see the Democratic Party so low in the poll, I think they’re doing a good job. At least their vote is holding up among distinguished forum members. Renzi gambled and lost and since then has been miscalculating rather a lot. There was a major party split recently; the splinter group is part of Liberi e Uguali. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 22:36:48 GMT
Normally I probably would, but I’m uncomfortable with their alliance, they call it a”protocol” with United Russia. Furthermore, a 5 Star victory will hasten the demise of the EU despotism. I can see the tactical point. And the protocol has appeal for me as a Russophile and 'Big Russia' supporter who dislikes the Stans. I don’t like the collection of despotic born to fail states that are the Central Asian “Stans” either tbh. I just dislike Putin and his kleptocracy more |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 19, 2018 0:58:20 GMT
Italian unification was a huge error.
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Post by mrpastelito on Jan 19, 2018 10:57:52 GMT
Italian unification was a huge error. As was European unification. Same mistakes all over again: wealthy, industrialised North annexes weaker South to open up new markets, thereby ruining nascent Southern industry that hasn't yet reached the same level of competitiveness, ending in a dependent South that forever needs Northern transfer money to stay afloat. Same same. |
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