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Post by carlton43 on Jan 21, 2018 12:23:56 GMT
I think I might join Lega Nord when in Sansepolcro in the late spring. They have offices in our road.
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Post by john07 on Jan 21, 2018 13:24:18 GMT
I think I might join Lega Nord when in Sansepolcro in the late spring. They have offices in our road. I can see the logic of you joining a party of tax dodgers and criminals? You are Umberto Bossi and I claim my £50! |
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Post by Foggy on Jan 21, 2018 18:48:20 GMT
I think I might join Lega Nord when in Sansepolcro in the late spring. They have offices in our road. I can see the logic of you joining a party of tax dodgers and criminals? You are Umberto Bossi and I claim my £50! *5 million lira  |
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Post by Antiochian on Jan 23, 2018 11:28:56 GMT
So why aren't they voting for parties that will drop the Euro? Well so far as I can tell the Five Star Movement, Lega Nord, Brothers of Italy and bunch of smaller parties want a referendum on the Euro. If current polling is correct these parties will constitute around 50% of the vote. Indeed.. this shows that those who thought the populist wave had passed are deluding themselves. The Euro would be shaken to the core by such a vote. EuroRemainers would have trouble drumming up a ProjectFear Italian-style as the Italian economy has been living the nightmare virtually since the Euro was introduced. Italy out would see Spain, Portugal and Greece go too. The Euro is the therefore the "feet of clay" of Ever Closer Union. It was interesting also to see Macron's comments last week on the French public's appetite for Frexit. At least he is not delusional. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 23, 2018 15:42:35 GMT
The Italian economy has been causing periodic Concern ever since the collapse of the First Republic back in the early 90s.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 23, 2018 20:55:14 GMT
The Italian economy has been causing periodic Concern ever since the collapse of the First Republic Western Roman Empire back in the early 90s. Fixed that for you. |
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Post by andrea on Jan 28, 2018 13:09:58 GMT
New poll in Corriere della Sera
Forza Italia 16.9%
Lega Nord 13.7%
Fratelli d'Italia (Brothers of Italy) 4.6%
Others Centre-right 1.1%
5 Stars 29.3%
PD 22.7%
Others Centre-left 4%
Liberi e Uguali (Free and Equal) 6.1%
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 28, 2018 14:47:36 GMT
I think I might join Lega Nord when in Sansepolcro in the late spring. They have offices in our road. I can see the logic of you joining a party of tax dodgers and criminals? You are Umberto Bossi and I claim my £50! Gee thanks John. Don't be bashful about your views. Tell me just what you think! |
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Post by Antiochian on Jan 28, 2018 19:28:03 GMT
New poll in Corriere della Sera Forza Italia 16.9% Lega Nord 13.7% Fratelli d'Italia (Brothers of Italy) 4.6% Others Centre-right 1.1% 5 Stars 29.3% PD 22.7% Others Centre-left 4% Liberi e Uguali (Free and Equal) 6.1% The Euro should be feeling sick as a parrot but is dancing past this particular graveyard. Fratelli d'Italia sounds so much like a place you'd find in a back alleyway of NY's Little Italy that its just not funny. Tony Soprano where are you? |
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Post by neilm on Jan 28, 2018 21:47:04 GMT
Are there regional breakdowns of these polls? I assume that the LN are getting almost nothing in, say, Puglia so a national average must have them miles ahead in the north.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 28, 2018 21:57:18 GMT
Of course they're running with a slight different message to normal this time...  |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 28, 2018 22:19:02 GMT
Of course they're running with a slight different message to normal this time... Is that the latest Leeds United badge? |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jan 29, 2018 2:17:30 GMT
I can see the logic of you joining a party of tax dodgers and criminals? You are Umberto Bossi and I claim my £50! Gee thanks John. Don't be bashful about your views. Tell me just what you think! Calm down, Carlton, go and do your mindfulness, or hill-walking in Kingussie or whatever it is you youngsters do to relax these days! |
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Post by neilm on Jan 29, 2018 3:37:49 GMT
Gee thanks John. Don't be bashful about your views. Tell me just what you think! Calm down, Carlton, go and do your mindfulness, or hill-walking in Kingussie or whatever it is you youngsters do to relax these days! I'm a mindfulness fan... |
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Post by andrea on Jan 30, 2018 13:41:02 GMT
Some more polls
EMG for La7
CENTRE-RIGHT: 37,5%
Forza Italia: 15,9
Lega: 13.8
Fratelli d'Italia: 5.0
Noi con l'Italia-Udc: 2.8
CENTRE LEFT: 28,7%
Pd: 24,0
Insieme (Verdi, Civici, Socialisti):1.7
Più Europa CD con Bonino: 1.6
Civica popolare con Lorenzin: 1.0
SVP: 0.4
MOVIMENTO CINQUE STELLE: 26,5%
LIBERI E UGUALI: 5,7%
Index Research
PD: 24,0
Insieme: 1,6
Più Europa: 1,3
Civica Popolare: 1,0%
LeU: 6,5%
FI: 15,8%
Lega: 13,7%
FdI: 5,2%
Noi con l'Italia: 2,1%
Others Centre-right: 0,5%
M5S: 27,0%
Lorien Consulting
Forza Italia 15,9%
Lega Nord 12,2%
Fratelli Italia 4,0%
Noi con l'Italia 1,4%
Energie per l'Italia 0,5%
TOTAL CENTRE RIGHT: 34,0%
PD 25,3%
Civica Popolare 1,4%
Più Europa 1,1%
Insieme 0,2%
TOTAL CENTRE-LEFT: 28,0%
Mov.5 Stelle 29,2%
Liberi e Uguali 5,9%
Euromedia
total centre-right 39.1 (FI 18.4 Lega 13.6)
total centre-left 27.8
5 Stars 26.4
Free and Equal 6
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 30, 2018 17:59:16 GMT
That premia di maioranza in case of reaching 40% in the FirstRound wasn't rejected by the ConstitutionalCourt, was it?
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Post by Foggy on Jan 30, 2018 18:40:30 GMT
That premia di maioranza in case of reaching 40% in the FirstRound wasn't rejected by the ConstitutionalCourt, was it? Yes, I believe it in fact was. The current electoral law is totally different from the one proposed under Renzi (especially as the last one was only intended for the lower house, until the electorate rejected Senate reform in the December 2016 referendum). |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 30, 2018 18:51:11 GMT
Yes - and there's also a FPTP element again (though smaller than for the 1994, 1996 and 2001 elections).
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 30, 2018 21:16:29 GMT
FWIW I reluctantly voted for the 5 Star Movement in the poll So have I, more out of curiosity as what would happen if they won than anything else. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 30, 2018 22:16:47 GMT
They would be paralysed by the various institutions of state and eventually removed from office in a probably not entirely above board manner. Also the economy would crash and they'd mismanage things pretty badly, but that goes without saying.
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