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Post by marksenior on May 15, 2012 14:54:17 GMT
Usual reaction by the Labour drones to someone leaving their party , the total opposite of what they say when someone defects to them .
I will be consistent , he should resign his seat and fight a byelection under his new colours otherwise he has betrayed those who voted for him as Labour .
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Post by kvasir on May 15, 2012 15:10:53 GMT
He use to post quite frequently on Labourlist before stopping about two years ago: labourlist.org/author/ralph-baldwin/He'd also post comments on other articles. Surprised he's actually gone and done it mind. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 15:30:11 GMT
Usual reaction by the Labour drones to someone leaving their party , the total opposite of what they say when someone defects to them . I will be consistent , he should resign his seat and fight a byelection under his new colours otherwise he has betrayed those who voted for him as Labour . unlike you, I have spoken to him on the phone, discussed with him on FB and LAbour List. This is from one of his pieces from 2010 - labourlist.org/2010/09/decision-time/I guess if the Tories are happy to have these views within the party the base of the party is far wider than any of us think. |
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Post by The Bishop on May 15, 2012 15:36:53 GMT
And now he drones on about Cameron being "progressive" and similar empty BS. Sorry mate, but it is you who has changed - not us.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 15:42:20 GMT
Usual reaction by the Labour drones to someone leaving their party , the total opposite of what they say when someone defects to them . I will be consistent , he should resign his seat and fight a byelection under his new colours otherwise he has betrayed those who voted for him as Labour . unlike you, I have spoken to him on the phone, discussed with him on FB and LAbour List. This is from one of his pieces from 2010 - labourlist.org/2010/09/decision-time/I guess if the Tories are happy to have these views within the party the base of the party is far wider than any of us think. I thought he had already gone. His resignation message is pretty self-serving but that would be true of anybody. I agree with Mark S (don't faint) in that I believe that if somebody is elected in one party interest and decides to change it, then the electorate should be allowed to decide if they are happy with that. I think to describe Ian's reaction as 'drone'-like is unfair; he has consistently defended Cllr Baldwin only to have been let down by him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 15:45:55 GMT
Hmm, this guy does seem to be one of "those" defectors.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 18:18:03 GMT
dok, I don;t get him to be honest he basically lied to a large number of LL people over the years and to myself personally when I asked if rumours of his defection to tories a few weeks ago were true.
the party is well rid of him and I think he has caused bid trouble with B&D labour.
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2012 0:37:13 GMT
It doesn't really mean anything. in all fairness and absolute honesty.
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2012 0:37:50 GMT
No one really believes in progress anymore. That's what I meant to say, anyway. Not as something that is anyway.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 16, 2012 10:24:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 11:46:28 GMT
The deputy leader of Solihull's Lib Dem group has left and joined the Greens. Son & former councillor also jumped ship with him.. www.solihullgreenparty.org.uk/ |
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Post by Richard Allen on May 16, 2012 12:26:27 GMT
The deputy leader of Solihull's Lib Dem group has left and joined the Greens. Son & former councillor also jumped ship with him.. www.solihullgreenparty.org.uk/That would be the son who only two weeks ago was happy to stand as a Lib Dem candidate. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 12:29:23 GMT
The deputy leader of Solihull's Lib Dem group has left and joined the Greens. Son & former councillor also jumped ship with him.. www.solihullgreenparty.org.uk/That would be the son who only two weeks ago was happy to stand as a Lib Dem candidate. It's an interesting defection. The Lib Dems are still getting around 20% of the vote (double the Greens) down there. |
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Post by Richard Allen on May 16, 2012 12:40:56 GMT
That would be the son who only two weeks ago was happy to stand as a Lib Dem candidate. It's an interesting defection. The Lib Dems are still getting around 20% of the vote (double the Greens) down there. However in neighbouring Shirley West, Howard Allen, who defected from LD to Green held his seat this year as a Green. That was probably a big factor in the decision. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 16, 2012 13:30:09 GMT
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Post by AdminSTB on May 16, 2012 13:34:56 GMT
Interesting bit of alternate history in that article, suggesting that the Lib Dems evolved from the SDLP! |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 14:09:12 GMT
Really Chris. Nothing to do with Langarth Farm then?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 17:30:18 GMT
For those of you in the Midlands the LD (ex) in Solihull will be on Midlands today shortly
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Post by Dalek Prime on May 16, 2012 19:30:03 GMT
Now confirmed that Gareth Ratcliffe has left the Tory group. He has said his reason for this was that he wants to take part in decision-making in any new administration. |
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Post by timrollpickering on May 16, 2012 20:43:00 GMT
Now confirmed that Gareth Ratcliffe has left the Tory group. He has said his reason for this was that he wants to take part in decision-making in any new administration. Is he the first defector to be so open about his motives, as opposed to all those who only discover they're passionately committed to a cause when writing their defection statement? |
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