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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Nov 21, 2017 11:00:23 GMT
I'm not sure I agree with the process for deciding on the Spitzenkandidaten whereby the group with the largest plurality should automatically get the Commission Presidency though. Let's say the EPP emerges as the largest group again, but can only muster the support of itself and maybe the ECR for its programme and leadership, while everyone from ALDE leftwards were to back the S&D candidate, why should the presidency go to the EPP?
I also don't like the imposition of a secondary mandate for commission president onto the European Parliamentary elections - it is a clear breach of separation of powers and provides a distorting effect to how people vote (maybe not in the UK, where no-one cares about these things, but in Germany in 2014, there was lots of press talk about the spitzenkandidaten in the lead up to the election). If you're going to have a directly elected commission president (and I'm not saying you should), make it a stand-alone election across the whole EU!
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Feb 1, 2018 15:03:33 GMT
Not quite sure what happened to the rest of the thread here - there were at least 3 or 4 posts above mine. I may edit my original post to be a more general piece on the elections a bit nearer the time in light of this.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Feb 1, 2018 15:40:12 GMT
Not quite sure what happened to the rest of the thread here - there were at least 3 or 4 posts above mine. I may edit my original post to be a more general piece on the elections a bit nearer the time in light of this. pjones deleted his account and pretty much nuked all of his posts. |
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Post by thetop on Feb 1, 2018 18:14:53 GMT
Not quite sure what happened to the rest of the thread here - there were at least 3 or 4 posts above mine. I may edit my original post to be a more general piece on the elections a bit nearer the time in light of this. pjones deleted his account and pretty much nuked all of his posts. Precipitated by the revelation English Pete was posting from distinctly non-UK IPs apparently... |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 1, 2018 21:55:02 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Feb 1, 2018 22:34:04 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Feb 1, 2018 23:15:55 GMT
Parliament approved a piece of secondary legislation recently that makes it even more difficult for any region-wide by-elections to be held to fill vacancies among MEPs, but there appears to be no word on the cancellation of the 2019 elections in the UK as of yet. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 27, 2018 1:09:15 GMT
Austria's exPM Kern (SPÖ) - who will meet Macron in the coming days - doesn't expect Macron to be part of PES or ALDE, but "to make his own thing".
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Post by neilm on May 29, 2018 10:05:46 GMT
Apparently around £900k has been allocated by the Electoral Commission to run this next year. I await the conspiracy theories.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 29, 2018 10:09:15 GMT
Apparently around £900k has been allocated by the Electoral Commission to run this next year. I await the conspiracy theories. The funding has been ringfenced, just in case the Article 50 period is extended (a provision which, be it remembered, is explicitly mentioned in Article 50) and EP elections go ahead. No money has been spent. But the leave side has never really cared about facts. |
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Post by neilm on Jul 28, 2018 23:28:51 GMT
Apparently around £900k has been allocated by the Electoral Commission to run this next year. I await the conspiracy theories. The funding has been ringfenced, just in case the Article 50 period is extended (a provision which, be it remembered, is explicitly mentioned in Article 50) and EP elections go ahead. No money has been spent. But the leave side has never really cared about facts. I was offering information, nothing to do with whether either side prefers facts or whatever, hence the conspiracy theory comment. I can't abide the practice of ring fencing for non capex or contingency reasons. It is time it was stamped on. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 23:43:57 GMT
Forming groups within the Parliament is tricky enough (given the attempt to make a far-right/nationalist grouping as hard as possible by increasing both the number of MEPs and number of countries a few years ago). When (dare I type "if"?) the UK leaves in March, that's one country and 70-odd MEPs no longer available. Who suffers the most? Farage's tie-in with the nationalists and Five Star is torn to shreds by the UK leaving. Both shades of conservatism look somewhat in trouble too. ALDE doesn't lose as many as it once did, but the lack of a British element will hurt.
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Post by neilm on Aug 7, 2018 5:09:02 GMT
Forming groups within the Parliament is tricky enough (given the attempt to make a far-right/nationalist grouping as hard as possible by increasing both the number of MEPs and number of countries a few years ago). When (dare I type "if"?) the UK leaves in March, that's one country and 70-odd MEPs no longer available. Who suffers the most? Farage's tie-in with the nationalists and Five Star is torn to shreds by the UK leaving. Both shades of conservatism look somewhat in trouble too. ALDE doesn't lose as many as it once did, but the lack of a British element will hurt. Losing the UK will hit the 'members of Upper Houses' stat for Alde, about 40% of that is the UK. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 7, 2018 7:52:16 GMT
The EPP won't kick out Orban, I reckon. I'll probably be proven wrong, mind.
But I think they won't because they won't want to set a precedent. The EPP, as with the other groupings, has lots of dubious characters in it, and tends to not fancy removing them.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 24, 2018 15:21:42 GMT
Austria's exPM Kern (SPÖ) will try to be nominated the European SocialDemocrats' leader. (The nomination will happen on Dec. 1st, i think.) The EastEuropeans will quite doubtlessly rally for the SMER-candidate (Sefkovic), some western Soc.Dem. for Timmermans or Moskovici. Austrian media have reported some support for Kern by Nahles and also by Macron (incl. coalition of PES&LEM).
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Post by neilm on Sept 24, 2018 15:34:02 GMT
Isn't Barnier being courted by several French parties?
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Nov 12, 2018 13:05:45 GMT
PES have selected Frans Timmermans as their Spitzenkandidate.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Nov 12, 2018 15:13:37 GMT
You had Frazier v Ali, Rangers v Celtic, Coke v Pepsi and now... Weber v Timmermans. That’ll set the heather alight😂
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 12, 2018 15:22:08 GMT
You had Frazier v Ali, Rangers v Celtic, Coke v Pepsi and now... Weber v Timmermans. That’ll set the heather alight😂 It won't do him much good, but Timmermans is a genuinely intelligent and decent bloke, with an interesting backstory. Weber is a CSU party hack. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 12, 2018 15:37:20 GMT
With the EU in the state it's in, and Germany in the state it's in, to chose Manfred Weber as their standard-bearer over Alexander Stubb is very bold.
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