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Post by jigger on Oct 15, 2017 23:26:55 GMT
Yes, but the voters who live in the right-hand photo still vote overwhelmingly for the Conservatives and I would assume the same for the left-hand photo with regards to Labour (though I'm not sure where that is). It's just that the residents in the right-hand photo were outvoted by other parts of the constituency. I believe the constituency on the right might have a Labour majority of 20 votes. Now, can we have some lovely pictures of Austrian towns with captions of how they voted, please?... Yeah, I knew which constituency/ward the right-hand photo was. It was the left-hand photo which left me stumped , but thanks to Arthur Figgis for enlightening me. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 15, 2017 23:29:59 GMT
Looks like Jaywick. I was relatively near there yesterday and considered wandering down- but went to some pubs instead. It's worth a visit just for the experience. When I lived in Wivenhoe, a fellow regular at the Horse and Groom described it as 'full of plastic cockneys living in beach huts. Soweto by the Sea, basically.' I’ve been there before, but not for many years. I was in the Horse and Groom yesterday. Liked the pub, but the beer range was dull- I’m not a huge fan of Adnams. The Black Buoy had a better range of beers. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 15, 2017 23:30:32 GMT
Addendum:
Krems, a 25.000-city in LowerAustria, since 1955 always with an ÖVP-mayor (sometimes narrowly), was lost last local-election by ÖVP to SPÖ, whose mayor managed yesterday to increase the vote-share by 10% to 46%.
One reason might be its small university (although GREENS performed badly, contrary to KPÖ).
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 15, 2017 23:38:20 GMT
The big bulk of the 890.000 missing PostalVotes will be counted tomorrow.
50.-100.000 on ThursDay (the hopes of the GREENS are focussed especially on the latter).
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Post by Foggy on Oct 15, 2017 23:49:01 GMT
I believe the constituency on the right might have a Labour majority of 20 votes. Now, can we have some lovely pictures of Austrian towns with captions of how they voted, please?... Yeah, I knew which constituency/ward the right-hand photo was. It was the left-hand photo which left me stumped , but thanks to Arthur Figgis for enlightening me. Whoops, I didn't read your post carefully enough, sorry. I thought both photos were obvious enough, mind, so I could've put you out of your misery regarding Clacton as well.  (On that note, it's worth pointing out that neither constituency voted for the parties that currently hold them as recently as 2015.) In my adoptive Austrian city of Klagenfurt, there was a virtual three-way tie with the SPÖ narrowly topping the poll on under 30% and the Greens down by more than 15%. I don't think any less of the beautiful towns and villages surrounding it for voting heavily in favour of Schwarz-Blau (though the SPÖ narrowly finished ahead of the FPÖ by 23 votes in St. Veit – where they finished first – and by just 12 votes in Krumpendorf). |
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Post by neilm on Oct 15, 2017 23:50:12 GMT
It's worth a visit just for the experience. When I lived in Wivenhoe, a fellow regular at the Horse and Groom described it as 'full of plastic cockneys living in beach huts. Soweto by the Sea, basically.' I’ve been there before, but not for many years. I was in the Horse and Groom yesterday. Liked the pub, but the beer range was dull- I’m not a huge fan of Adnams. The Black Buoy had a better range of beers. I was a regular at the Black Buoy too, neither pub being frequented by students/academics unlike the Rose and Crown or the Greyhound (initially I lived at the Quay end before moving to the Cross end). The Black Buoy got very run down but a few years ago some residents bought it and it's really been on the up since. The BB was the only place I've ever had a Tolly Cobbold beer (light ale IIRC, I've been partial to a light and bitter since I was a teen): Ridleys bought them out in 2002 and obviously they then got wrecked by Greene King. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 0:38:43 GMT
The big bulk of the 890.000 missing PostalVotes will be counted tomorrow. 50.-100.000 on ThursDay (the hopes of the GREENS are focussed especially on the latter). Why are the postal votes being counted separately? At the counts I've attended they were always mixed in with the 'ordinary' votes? Normal votes are counted here in the precincts, what meant, that 1-2 PostalVotes was once a real danger (anonymity). As a result the PVs are collected and counted per district. After last year's extremely narrow PresidentialRace (round II), when the winner wasn't known on SunDay evening, SPÖVP intended to change the regulation in order to make counting happening on ElectionEvening, but this SnapElection came too early. |
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Post by ccoleman on Oct 16, 2017 1:51:39 GMT
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Yes, but the voters who live in the right-hand photo still vote overwhelmingly for the Conservatives and I would assume the same for the left-hand photo with regards to Labour (though I'm not sure where that is). It's just that the residents in the right-hand photo were outvoted by other parts of the constituency. A better example might be some suburbs of major cities. Such as this area of Leeds: goo.gl/maps/R8F7s7FDj7T2You can even see a Labour placard!  |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 16, 2017 5:52:46 GMT
It was so nice when I visited 😞 "Top socialist calls for Aperols all round"  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 14:45:42 GMT
The big bulk of the 890.000 missing PostalVotes will be counted tomorrow. 50.-100.000 on ThursDay (the hopes of the GREENS are focussed especially on the latter). 36/116 districts are counted and the GREENS are at 5.7% instead of the needed 7% (the urban districts might still be uncounted, though). ThursDay they might do far better, but those aren't so many votes. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 16, 2017 15:26:45 GMT
The big bulk of the 890.000 missing PostalVotes will be counted tomorrow. 50.-100.000 on ThursDay (the hopes of the GREENS are focussed especially on the latter). 36/116 districts are counted and the GREENS are at 5.7% instead of the needed 7% (the urban districts might still be uncounted, though). ThursDay they might do far better, but those aren't so many votes. Do you have the latest totals for the main parties? Just wondering how close it is for second place. |
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 16, 2017 17:51:39 GMT
36/116 districts are counted and the GREENS are at 5.7% instead of the needed 7% (the urban districts might still be uncounted, though). ThursDay they might do far better, but those aren't so many votes. Do you have the latest totals for the main parties? Just wondering how close it is for second place. This page is being updated as the postals are counted. The gap for second has narrowed... wahl17.bmi.gv.at/ |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 20:04:11 GMT
36/116 districts are counted and the GREENS are at 5.7% instead of the needed 7% (the urban districts might still be uncounted, though). ThursDay they might do far better, but those aren't so many votes. Do you have the latest totals for the main parties? Just wondering how close it is for second place. Few hours/districts ago FPÖ and SPÖ were very few votes apart. With 92/116 districts done (some in Styria, UpperA., Vienna and Salzburg aren't in; as these regions haven't been extremely greenish, the GREENS really seem to be out) the difference has been widening to 8.640 (of course in favour of SPÖ). So it's roughly inevitable - what was probable since yesterday ~17.30 - that FPÖ will be third and can perhaps choose between K.u.K., Kurz and Kern. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 16, 2017 20:46:19 GMT
Basically done now: ÖVP 31.5, SPÖ 26.9, FPÖ 26.1, Neos 5.2, Pilz 4.4, Greens 3.7
Changes on last time say everything: Greens down 8.6, ÖVP up 7.5, FPÖ up 5.5, SPÖ and Neos level.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 21:02:24 GMT
Except my district (SalzburgCity) everything (less those ~50.000, who voted in other districts) is counted:
79.2% Participation (will naturally rise on ThursDay)
31.5% (+7.5%) = 62 ÖVP
26.9% (+0.0%) = 52 SPÖ
26.1% (+5.5%) = 51 FPÖ
05.2% (+0.3%) = 10 NEOS
04.4% (*4.4%) = 08 Pilz
03.7% (-8.6%) = 00 GREENS
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 21:17:25 GMT
My guess - relying on the normal OpinionPolls - is: 31 ÖVP 27 FPÖ 23 SPÖ 06 GREENS 05 NEOS 05 Pilz 03 others I was off by 1.4% per party. I underestimated SPÖ by 3.9% und overestimated GREENS by 2.3% and Pilz by 0.6%, because I didn't expect so many Lefties to vote non-tactically - always take into account stupidity! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 21:25:07 GMT
My guess - relying on the normal OpinionPolls - is: 31 ÖVP 27 FPÖ 23 SPÖ 06 GREENS 05 NEOS 05 Pilz 03 others I was off by 1.4% per party. I underestimated SPÖ by 3.9% und overestimated GREENS by 2.3% and Pilz by 0.6%, because I didn't expect so many Lefties to vote non-tactically - always take into account stupidity! OGM was once again the best pollster with a deviation per party of 0.6%, clearly better than I did. They overrated ÖVP by 1.5% and underrated FPÖ by 1.1%, perhaps caused by a very late swing. |
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Post by greenhert on Oct 16, 2017 21:48:04 GMT
Goodness knows what will happen in the Austrian Greens-they lost all their seats whilst "old Green" Peter Pilz, who they disowned, has kept his seat and helped elect 7 others, including some ex-Greens.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 16, 2017 22:41:21 GMT
Goodness knows what will happen in the Austrian Greens-they lost all their seats whilst "old Green" Peter Pilz, who they disowned, has kept his seat and helped elect 7 others, including some ex-Greens. The GREENS clearly hoped on SunDay, that their rival would also fail and fall below 4%. But Pilz is an EgoManic focussed on his pseudoRevelations, has had no coherent platform and doesn't intend to establish a party (de iure due to PartyFunding, yet not de facto), so the GREENies can be rather relaxed, Pilz might run in RegionalElections next year and hurt them; still, in the long run he should be no problem. Perhaps both sects can find an agreement (cf. the westgerman GREENS and BÜNDNIS90). |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 17, 2017 13:43:02 GMT
Wikipedia seems to be adamant that the result of the Austrian election was as follows, with the Freedom Party just 8,640 votes behind the Social Democrats: OVP: 31.7% SPO: 26.7% FPO: 26.5% link |
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(On that note, it's worth pointing out that neither constituency voted for the parties that currently hold them as recently as 2015.) 
