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Post by manchesterman on Mar 23, 2021 20:48:24 GMT
..all of which is a wonderful thing, because we would have almost nothing to get excited about if the votes cast in each constituency scarcely changed in election after election. Just waiting for the day when Epsom & Ewell elects a Labour MP and Bootle elects a Tory
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 22, 2021 20:48:22 GMT
Found the original, and just look at the efficiency/consistency of the Tory graph in comparison!
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 22, 2021 19:54:30 GMT
Did Bob Crow(RIP) not support the death penalty, I seem to remember? Presumably he supported it in the USSR, Cuba etc.. Bloody hell, I read that as Jim Crow at first..which puts a whole different twist on it!!
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 22, 2021 14:18:08 GMT
I'm not convinced the "small town white working class" are that right-wing, actually. Certainly not in the North East. They're certainly socially conservative (though most social issues tend to bear little weight offline, despite all the noise they create online), but on economics they're centre-left. They don't want to pay more taxes themselves, but the residents of Spennymoor aren't crying out for a Singapore-on-Thames tax haven regime - in fact they want more funding for visible public services like health and the police. Which is why Labour are sensibly downplaying their candidate's Europhile leanings and emphasising the NHS above all else. There needs to be less focus on pronouns and more on poverty and tackling it. And no, it’s not bigoted or transphobic not to be willing to be engaged in this, but talking about ‘Mx’ on forms (there was an article about this last month) just causes unnecessary resentment from people who are literally struggling to put food on the table who must be wondering this is where the party’s priority appears to be? Absolutely go for social progress and equality, but do so ‘in the background’ and focus on what a government should be doing, and that is economic priorities that affect people, their pockets and their environment. As well as the NHS I’d like to see free school meals come to the fore again if they are serious about campaigning. With the ‘vaccine high’ it almost feels like everyone has forgotten about the FSM debacle. Given how ‘low’ the Tories went in their 2019 campaign (FactCheckUK, having D.Abbott on every leaflet even though she’s not a party leader, Corbyn the chicken), Labour has no option other than to “go low” as it were. Dominic Cummings and Dido Harding’s faces should be on every leaflet. Quoted to like again - send this to Labour Party HQ asap
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 22, 2021 13:32:13 GMT
Surely if he wants to give $44000 to Donald Trump, he's perfectly entitled to do so
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 22, 2021 13:20:59 GMT
This isn't going to be an interesting election. What?? It's going to be an absolute nailbiter to see who finishes 3rd
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 18, 2021 19:06:39 GMT
It may well be that he turns out to be the best candidate for Labour, but that still dosent alter the fact that the way he was selected leaves a nasty whiff!
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 18, 2021 14:56:35 GMT
"Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville (Revolutionary Workers Party)
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 18, 2021 14:07:33 GMT
It would be funnier if she stood in Rotherham Lee Rotherham was the Tory candidate in Rotherham in 2005. That would really cause confusion if he stood for the Tories and Anna stood for Labour!
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 18, 2021 13:56:24 GMT
It would be funnier if she stood in Rotherham
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 18, 2021 12:36:46 GMT
A reminder of what Keir Starmer said in Feb 2020 then...
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 16, 2021 13:01:10 GMT
Given the reasons for him stepping down, in the current climate, that really cant help Labour can it? Add in the "vaccine bounce" and the apparent "5th avenue" factor much of the electorate seems to apply to this government, I think a Tory win is quite likely - unless Reform [or whatever nomenclature the Farage cult is standing under these days] decides to stand and picks up 5/6/7/8% which could make it anyone's guess.
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 7, 2021 0:51:21 GMT
Interesting that the Estimated Seats projection gives the SNP a majority of 1! Whatever happens between now and polling day it looks like it will be a cliffhanger.
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Post by manchesterman on Mar 7, 2021 0:48:06 GMT
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:57:36 GMT
I dont think he (or I) were suggesting the details of any exit deals would be done and dusted by 2029. However it is perfectly feasible (likely) that there will be a ref in the next 4-5 years & I think we were saying we were predicting a YES vote in that ref, be it in 2025/2026/2027/2028 etc. We wouldn't be independent then. There'd have to be a solid deal before it happened in order to ensure market stability. As said elsewhere, this wouldn't be like Brexit, mainly as Scotland hasn't been officially independent for 300 years, and practically for 400. playing semantics - OK I will change my projection to "will have voted YES in an Indy ref by then"
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:56:10 GMT
2015 style Conservative government at Westminster. We will be in the aftermath of indyref 2; If it's pro Union, the SNP will be falling in the polls after they immediately misread the room and raise the spectre of Indyref 3. If a yes, Scottish politics will be in turmoil. The Conservatives, now solely about the union and nothing much else, will be rampaging across most No voting areas, there would be a clamour for a second referendum, rumblings of Northern Isles secession, the UK would be playing hardball in negotiations making Scottish nationalists more overtly anti-English, thusly English people will be leaving in droves, and the Scottish public will be polarising American style. I would have thought this would be disastrous for the Tories, as the "traditional " Labour seats - dozens of them - would surely, if disillusioned with SNP in those "no" areas, revert back to their instincts? Yes a handful of rural seats a la 2017 but that would be it.
I could see a possible scenario of (dates very loose!) : Indy Ref 2027 > YES vote > SNP in charge of what happens next (which will not be good for Scotland I think we agree on that) > SNP vote collapse at, say, a 2032 Scottish GE , in which Labour would win back all the central belt seats they lost in 2015 and, even with a proportional voting system, would be very likely to form the next Scottish government.
A lot of "ifs" in there and we are projecting well into the future, but that would be my best guess.
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:38:43 GMT
Perhaps they deleted their post after manchesterman 's comment. Predicting the future is always risky, but if I were to play along, I would say that 10 years from now Scotland would be independent, nationalists would be the largest faction at Stormont and rUK would have a majority Labour government headed by a female PM. No. A referendum won't be allowed in this parliament, UK parliament, and any exit deal would take at least a decade to sort out. I dont think he (or I) were suggesting the details of any exit deals would be done and dusted by 2029. However it is perfectly feasible (likely) that there will be a ref in the next 4-5 years & I think we were saying we were predicting a YES vote in that ref, be it in 2025/2026/2027/2028 etc.
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:35:30 GMT
I agree with part of Mondialito's post. I foresee an Independent Scotland and N.Ireland either already joined up with RoI (or well on the way towards). Nevertheless, with Labour still sticking its head in the sand about voting reform and the media if anything becoming even more "fake and Fox", the Tories still managing to cling to 40% of the vote despite the devastation they will have wrought on the fabric of our nation; and whilst the other parties refuse to co-operate with each other in any meaningful way, the majority anti-Tory vote remains split and under FPTP, I see a Sunak government with a majority of about 15 on a 40% share.
Of course if over the next few years, the opposition parties do come to their sense, then well who knows...?
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:32:24 GMT
Where has the OP gone? I was responding to a question. Perhaps they deleted their post after manchesterman 's comment. Predicting the future is always risky, but if I were to play along, I would say that 10 years from now Scotland would be independent, nationalists would be the largest faction at Stormont and rUK would have a majority Labour government headed by a female PM. Interesting, would you care to stick your neck out as to who you think that Pm might be?
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Post by manchesterman on Feb 20, 2021 13:23:48 GMT
For clarity, I wasnt asking for the thread to be pulled. Twas but a light hearted observation!
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