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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 16, 2012 9:50:05 GMT
Whilst that is phrased as a 'when did you stop beating your wife' question, that would be interesting. I think if Labour had got that swing in 2012 they'd have taken the majority, but given the underlying demographics we have underperformed there and it's long enough since Dave Church that that can no longer be the whole story.
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Post by andrea on Nov 16, 2012 10:27:07 GMT
BOURNEMOUTH UA, Littledown & Iford
Con 810 Lab 247 UKIP 229 LD 214
Newcastle- Ouseburn:
Labour 714 Lib dem 665 Con 49 Ncl First 73
Wolverhampton-Park by-election : Craig Collingswood (Lab) 1,023 votes; Jenny Brewer (Con) 482; Roger Gray (Lib Dem) 179; David Mackintosh (UKIP), 81
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 16, 2012 10:31:37 GMT
Newcastle- Ouseburn: Labour 714 Lib dem 665 Con 49 Ncl First 73 I wonder if, to choose someone entirely at random, Mark Senior has a comment on that one? |
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Post by andrea on Nov 16, 2012 10:32:59 GMT
Waveney - Beccles South
Con 520 Green 390 Lab 369 LD 35
Con gain from Lab.
And overall control to the Tories
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 16, 2012 10:37:48 GMT
So a 4.3% swing from Labour to Conservative since May as when wqe all know Labour underperformerd abominally in Walsall. Perhaps Ian might want to explain to us why Labour is still so underperforming in his home borough rather than offering his half-arsed analysis of UKIP's performance in constituencies he knows nothing about A swing to Labour from 2011, when Labour did much better in Walsall overall. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 10:40:09 GMT
Waveney - Beccles South Con 520 Green 390 Lab 369 LD 35 Con gain from Lab. And overall control to the Tories I am guessing that wont get much coverage but some good news for the Tories. |
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Post by meurig on Nov 16, 2012 10:47:45 GMT
Conwy - Deganwy
Con 437
Plaid Cymru 327
Labour 142
Ind 74
Lib Dem 53
UKIP 57
Ind 49
Not sure which Independent is which at this stage.
Con gain from Independent.
Damn good result for Plaid.
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Post by name2remember on Nov 16, 2012 10:51:37 GMT
Liverpool Knotty Ash:
Ged Taylor Labour Party 1213 68.61% Elected
Stephen Maddison Liberal Democrat 149 8.43% Not elected
Ann Hines Liberal Party 131 7.41% Not elected
Adam Heatherington UK Independence Party 101 5.71% Not elected
Derek Francis Grue English Democrats "Putting England First" 50 2.83% Not elected
Charley Cosgrove Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition 48 2.71% Not elected
Jack Stallworthy Conservative Party 40 2.26% Not elected
Jonathan Michael Deamer Green Party 36 2.04% Not elected
Congratulations to my friend Ann Hines on a very respectable 3rd Place!
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 16, 2012 10:55:46 GMT
That Waveney result will be a disappointment. I'd heard last night that we were quietly confident we'd done enough to hold on, but we clearly shed too many votes to the Greens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 10:57:42 GMT
So a 4.3% swing from Labour to Conservative since May as when wqe all know Labour underperformerd abominally in Walsall. Perhaps Ian might want to explain to us why Labour is still so underperforming in his home borough rather than offering his half-arsed analysis of UKIP's performance in constituencies he knows nothing about A swing to Labour from 2011, when Labour did much better in Walsall overall. over 50% in a seat that is considered one of the marginals in walsall, settle for that |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 10:59:16 GMT
Thats a good result for the Liberals in Knotty Ash - perhaps there is a chance they could start to supplant the LDs in wards like this. Another big decline for the LDs even compared with their desperate result in May and this was a ward they'd held up relatively well in 2011
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Post by andrea on Nov 16, 2012 11:00:09 GMT
Shillington and Silsoe
Alison Graham 527
Con 236
UKIP 73
LD 66
Green 56
Turnout: 27.95
Merthyr - Cyfarthfa : Lab 385 Ind 364 Ind 289 Plaid 101 Con 26
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 11:02:11 GMT
Lol. I wonder if, to choose someone entirely at random, Mark Senior has a comment on that one?
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Post by marksenior on Nov 16, 2012 11:08:43 GMT
Lol. I wonder if, to choose someone entirely at random, Mark Senior has a comment on that one? Yes a Conservative loss to a LD standing as an Independent . |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 11:10:56 GMT
Very good. Why did the LDs put up a candidate against her then?
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Post by marksenior on Nov 16, 2012 11:17:10 GMT
Sorry don't know the answer to that .
Here is another shock noone predicted
Harrogate Rossett was LD gain from Con
LD 807 Con 704 UKIP 127 Lab 106
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 16, 2012 11:20:47 GMT
Harrogate's a good win for LDs. Currently I make it Consevatives have gained 3 (2 from Labour, 1 from Ind) and lost 3 (2 to LD, 1 to Ind). LDs have gained 2 with no losses and Lab have gained 1 (from Ind) but lost 2 (to Con).
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 11:21:03 GMT
Sorry don't know the answer to that . I'll help you out then. The winning candidate was not a LD - she was an Independent. People in this ward were given an opportunity to vote for a LD candidate and less than 7% did so |
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Post by marksenior on Nov 16, 2012 11:25:30 GMT
They had the opportunity to vote Conservative , Lib Dem , Labour or an Independent who was a former LD councillor for the ward and voted overwhelmingly for the latter .
Eden DC Penrith Pategill was LD gain from Con
LD 221 Con 86 Lab 77 BNP 28
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 16, 2012 11:27:32 GMT
You predicted the LDs would gain that ward though didn't you Mark. I don't think many people would have interprested that prediction as having been fulfilled by the Independent winning just because she is an ex-LD
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