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Post by andrew111 on Apr 19, 2017 10:59:07 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 19, 2017 10:59:13 GMT
Are you sure about Hunter? I had a leaflet through my door only last week that implied he was the PPC, and he was definitely re-selected last year.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 19, 2017 11:03:39 GMT
And Pugh's definitely standing down, however active he is...
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 19, 2017 11:16:15 GMT
I wonder whether Manchester City Council had posted out all their postal ballot papers just before they heard the news about the GE? If so, they won't be happy! Why so? Aren't all costs met by the Home Office? (Or somebody - perhaps DCLG these days.) Just hope they haven't put byelection and mayoral in the same package! |
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Post by froome on Apr 19, 2017 11:47:32 GMT
I wonder whether Manchester City Council had posted out all their postal ballot papers just before they heard the news about the GE? If so, they won't be happy! Why so? Aren't all costs met by the Home Office? (Or somebody - perhaps DCLG these days.) I wasn't aware of that. Can someone confirm that is the case. |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 19, 2017 11:49:28 GMT
Are you sure about Hunter? I had a leaflet through my door only last week that implied he was the PPC, and he was definitely re-selected last year. no, I just noted that someone else is doing all the website stories (even about the election, with Hunter's name mentioned but not as if written by him... That is weird behaviour.) Last year in the Lib Dems there were "emergency reselections" that expire shortly. If you had a leaflet then probably he is standing, but just not very good at social media! |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 19, 2017 11:50:29 GMT
And Pugh's definitely standing down, however active he is... yes, I just saw that about Pugh, after posting... Probable Tory gain in that case |
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Post by john07 on Apr 19, 2017 12:18:46 GMT
Ah well, it was beginning to look as if the Lib Dems would win Gorton if given just a little more time...could they still win it on June 8th?  Along with Withington, Cheadle to make a little block? All that by-election work is not necessarily lost even if the by-election is indeed cancelled. The by-election work might have a spillover into Withington, but it's not really anything to do with Cheadle- they might be contiguous in a constituency sense, but the settlements are separated by a river, a motorway and a freight railway, and are in different boroughs. It might well have diverted resources- understandably of course. I'm reasonably sure that the LDs will take back Cheadle anyway. If we are being picky, it is two freight railways, one going through the former high level Cheadle South station and one through the former Cheadle North station near to the Mersey. The Lib Dems really need to focus on Cheadle, Hazel Grove, and rebuilding their base in Withington, before they get caught up in any fantasies about winning in Gorton. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 19, 2017 12:28:16 GMT
So there will be a by election but it won't count...? As Professor Joad might have said, "it depends what you mean by a by election". As I understand it all the elements of a by election will proceed until the dissolution of parliament ... And then stops. |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 19, 2017 12:48:07 GMT
Its a mistake to think the Southport UKIP vote came all from the Tories.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 19, 2017 12:53:41 GMT
As Professor Joad might have said, "it depends what you mean by a by election". As I understand it all the elements of a by election will proceed until the dissolution of parliament ... And then stops. oh gaud If I'm reading things correctly (no guarantee) ... It is a huge mess. People will be turning up on the 4th expecting two ballot papers (but receive only one). Thousands of returned ballot packs will be heading for an incinerator somewhere. Cue complaints at the polling station: Why can't I have a vote for the by-election?
There is no byelection.
But my nan/ uncle/ cousin has already voted! Why can they vote but I can't?
How did they vote?
By post.
They'll all be destroyed.
You're DESTROYING people's votes! |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 19, 2017 12:55:56 GMT
So there will be a by election but it won't count...? As Professor Joad might have said, "it depends what you mean by a by election". As I understand it all the elements of a by election will proceed until the dissolution of parliament ... And then stops. That isn't a tenable position, shurely? |
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Post by johnr on Apr 19, 2017 12:56:28 GMT
What will Gorgeous George do?
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 19, 2017 12:59:18 GMT
As Professor Joad might have said, "it depends what you mean by a by election". As I understand it all the elements of a by election will proceed until the dissolution of parliament ... And then stops. That isn't a tenable position, shurely? That appears to be the law. Isn't there some way to make an emergency order in council (or something, anything, is Brenda available?) to cancel Gorton as soon as Parliament votes for dissolution? |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 19, 2017 13:21:00 GMT
If I'm reading things correctly (no guarantee) ... It is a huge mess. People will be turning up on the 4th expecting two ballot papers (but receive only one). Thousands of returned ballot packs will be heading for an incinerator somewhere. Cue complaints at the polling station: Why can't I have a vote for the by-election?
There is no byelection.
But my nan/ uncle/ cousin has already voted! Why can they vote but I can't?
How did they vote?
By post.
They'll all be destroyed.
You're DESTROYING people's votes!Its ok, none of that matters at all! Carlton says so! |
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 19, 2017 13:22:18 GMT
If I'm reading things correctly (no guarantee) ... It is a huge mess. People will be turning up on the 4th expecting two ballot papers (but receive only one). Thousands of returned ballot packs will be heading for an incinerator somewhere. Cue complaints at the polling station: Why can't I have a vote for the by-election?
There is no byelection.
But my nan/ uncle/ cousin has already voted! Why can they vote but I can't?
How did they vote?
By post.
They'll all be destroyed.
You're DESTROYING people's votes! what a mess, not to mention people that vote by post now and think that counts for June. There's an argument here for an emergency act of Parliament/ amendment to stop this and allow this by election to take place. Destroying people's votes simply isn't acceptable. What a farce. Or Theresa could just hold her General Election on the 15th, rather than the 8th... |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 19, 2017 13:57:18 GMT
Whatever, there needs to be SOMETHING sorted one way or the other soon.
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 19, 2017 13:58:18 GMT
If I'm reading things correctly (no guarantee) ... It is a huge mess. People will be turning up on the 4th expecting two ballot papers (but receive only one). Thousands of returned ballot packs will be heading for an incinerator somewhere. Cue complaints at the polling station: Why can't I have a vote for the by-election?
There is no byelection.
But my nan/ uncle/ cousin has already voted! Why can they vote but I can't?
How did they vote?
By post.
They'll all be destroyed.
You're DESTROYING people's votes! what a mess, not to mention people that vote by post now and think that counts for June. There's an argument here for an emergency act of Parliament/ amendment to stop this and allow this by election to take place. Destroying people's votes simply isn't acceptable. What a farce. An election cannot take place to a Parliament that has ceased to exist. That would be a real farce. As for this mess, might I suggest that the obvious thing is for a large signs to be displayed in all polling stations explaining that the parliamentary by election has been cancelled due to the forthcoming general election. It isn't a particularly difficult concept to grasp, even for the intellectually challenged. |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Apr 19, 2017 14:14:14 GMT
Why not dissolve Parliament two days later, have the by election and cancel the combined mayor election instead?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 19, 2017 14:28:01 GMT
Polling day in a general election is fixed for 25 working days after the dissolution of Parliament - so if dissolution was delayed, polling day would not be 8 June.
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