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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 13:25:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 13:29:37 GMT
What are you laughin at young man. Lib Dems ddnt exactley do to well did they!!!!!  ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 13:53:10 GMT
What are you laughin at young man. Lib Dems ddnt exactley do to well did they!!!!! ? You see, a newbie wouldn't know that I was a LibDem. You've given yourself away there, whoever you may so be. |
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Post by Jack on Feb 25, 2017 13:55:21 GMT
With the grammatical errors, I'm guessing it's Benji.  |
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Post by yellowperil on Feb 25, 2017 13:59:39 GMT
You are aware that the 1945 general election was declared during the day. First result about 10 AM. No I wasn't aware- again the difference between relying on the memory of a six year old and real knowledge gleaned from books. I had a clear memory of my Mum & Dad gleefully telling me that morning that "we'd kicked the Tories out" and I had assumed that the info was coming through the night. Come to think of it my dad had probably been at the count all night and probably had an inkling of the results before any declarations had happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 14:08:12 GMT
What are you laughin at young man. Lib Dems ddnt exactley do to well did they!!!!! ? You see, a newbie wouldn't know that I was a LibDem. You've given yourself away there, whoever you may so be. Its the beard m8 |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 25, 2017 14:32:33 GMT
You are aware that the 1945 general election was declared during the day. First result about 10 AM. No I wasn't aware- again the difference between relying on the memory of a six year old and real knowledge gleaned from books. I had a clear memory of my Mum & Dad gleefully telling me that morning that "we'd kicked the Tories out" and I had assumed that the info was coming through the night. Come to think of it my dad had probably been at the count all night and probably had an inkling of the results before any declarations had happened. It is one of my very earliest memories...........that awful pall of gloom as despondency and days of silence over the result. Perhaps a formative and deep-seated influence at a fundamentally impressionable age? |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 25, 2017 14:59:51 GMT
You are aware that the 1945 general election was declared during the day. First result about 10 AM. No I wasn't aware- again the difference between relying on the memory of a six year old and real knowledge gleaned from books. I had a clear memory of my Mum & Dad gleefully telling me that morning that "we'd kicked the Tories out" and I had assumed that the info was coming through the night. Come to think of it my dad had probably been at the count all night and probably had an inkling of the results before any declarations had happened. How could your dad have been at the count all night, when the count was during the daytime? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 15:27:15 GMT
What are you laughin at young man. Lib Dems ddnt exactley do to well did they!!!!! ? Wasn't horrific, but Lib Dems did get a bit overexcited. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 25, 2017 16:14:11 GMT
No I wasn't aware- again the difference between relying on the memory of a six year old and real knowledge gleaned from books. I had a clear memory of my Mum & Dad gleefully telling me that morning that "we'd kicked the Tories out" and I had assumed that the info was coming through the night. Come to think of it my dad had probably been at the count all night and probably had an inkling of the results before any declarations had happened. How could your dad have been at the count all night, when the count was during the daytime? Not only was there no overnight counting, it was all counted many days later after the forces votes had been repatriated and divided up on various models to various constituencies. Also not every constituency polled on the same day because of Wakes Weeks in the north. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Feb 25, 2017 16:24:48 GMT
How could your dad have been at the count all night, when the count was during the daytime? Not only was there no overnight counting, it was all counted many days later after the forces votes had been repatriated and divided up on various models to various constituencies. Also not every constituency polled on the same day because of Wakes Weeks in the north. You see, yellowperil, alternative facts and fake news won't get you far on this forum  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 25, 2017 16:25:12 GMT
The fact that UKIP keeps recycling its MEPs for most (every?) parliamentary byelection points to its small pool of talent. The fact that Paul Nuttall is the only MEP out of the 8 different candidates to have stood in byelections since the last general election points to you being a purveyor of fake news (aka bullshit) On the other hand it's been 100% of the byelections I've been involved in.  |
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Post by neilm on Feb 25, 2017 16:34:39 GMT
I think with the benefit of hindsight this is correct - either the 2015 candidate Mick Harold or one of the local MEPs like Bill Etheridge would have done better. Given what a fiasco of a campaign it was, keeping second place and increasing vote share was actually better than I expected by the end but of course far worse than seemed possible when the seat became available. The ineptitude of the campaign team would still have been a factor of course whoever the candidate was, but at least if it had been Mick Harold then they wouldn't have felt the need to engage in pathetic stunts over the address on the nomination paper which dominated the narrative for much of the campaign (and of course we wouldn't have had all the Hillsborough nonsense and the 'fake news'* about the resignation of a couple of branch officials in Merseyside) * fake in the sense not that it didn't happen, but that it was especially newsworthy to the extent that it constituted one of the lead stories on several TV news bulletins The fact that UKIP keeps recycling its MEPs for most (every?) parliamentary byelection points to its small pool of talent. They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 16:45:08 GMT
The fact that UKIP keeps recycling its MEPs for most (every?) parliamentary byelection points to its small pool of talent. They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. Greasy unemployable arts students, strange old men, or yummy mummies with banker husbands. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 25, 2017 16:47:15 GMT
The fact that UKIP keeps recycling its MEPs for most (every?) parliamentary byelection points to its small pool of talent. They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. I do!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 17:09:29 GMT
They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. I hadn't thought about it like that before, but all that might go some way to explaining why the Greens are notably crap at by-elections. |
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 25, 2017 17:39:35 GMT
What are you laughin at young man. Lib Dems ddnt exactley do to well did they!!!!! ? Wasn't horrific, but Lib Dems did get a bit overexcited. It was actually fairly close to the agents prediction. There were plenty of people who were willing to give us a hearing but quite reasonably wanted to make sure Nuttall was didn't get in. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 25, 2017 17:44:40 GMT
They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. I hadn't thought about it like that before, but all that might go some way to explaining why the Greens are notably crap at by-elections. No, I think there's more to it than that.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 18:22:01 GMT
I hadn't thought about it like that before, but all that might go some way to explaining why the Greens are notably crap at by-elections. No, I think there's more to it than that. I didn't suggest for a moment that there wasn't. |
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Post by neilm on Feb 25, 2017 18:35:32 GMT
They may be the only people who can afford to take the time off for a by election: unlike Labour where the candidates are often white collar union officials who have rarely done a proper day's work in their lives, or the Conservatives where candidates are often business people, or the Lib Dems where the candidates are full time council or group leaders. I don't have a stereotype for the Greens. I hadn't thought about it like that before, but all that might go some way to explaining why the Greens are notably crap at by-elections. The income/earning issue is much more serious than a lot of people realise. |
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