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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 13:43:58 GMT
Par for the course with any God Botherers. Ireland, Scotland, civil war still going on in SNP as the Prods are challenged in North Lanarkshire constituency. Liked some of the out and out SF stuff from the old days as it shows where nationalism always ends up.  |
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johnr
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Post by johnr on Feb 16, 2017 14:03:10 GMT
That sounds juicy - citation? There is a facsimile of a letter on the Copeland thread. If its the one posted there, its not a fake letter - its a clearly Labour branded leaflet, similar to countless ones put out by all political parties in every election since Sir Robin Day was a boy. |
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 16, 2017 14:10:29 GMT
He was tired after playing in the Champions League last night. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 16, 2017 16:36:09 GMT
That sounds juicy - citation? There is a facsimile of a letter on the Copeland thread. Oh. Is the "I would have lost my baby without West Cumberland" letter a fake? Genuine question. |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 16, 2017 16:38:53 GMT
But that has nothing to do with the very poor behaviour by Labour in both constituencies where lies and trivia take the place of substantive policy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you were an admirer of Trump's Presidental campaign. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that your characterisation of the Labour campaigns is accurate, why applaud that approach on the other side of the pond but not here in the UK? |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 16, 2017 17:02:17 GMT
Paul Nuttall appears to have taken his website down (supposedly for "scheduled maintenance") and hasn't tweeted since Monday. Which is rather odd behaviour this close to election day.
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Post by wallington on Feb 16, 2017 17:09:05 GMT
Paul Nuttall appears to have taken his website down (supposedly for "scheduled maintenance") and hasn't tweeted since Monday. Which is rather odd behaviour this close to election day. Maybe someone running the campaign has told him it may be best to just keep his mouth shut on the internet and just focus on campaigning on stoke. That way he can make any 'exaggerated' claim he likes without being called out on it... |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 16, 2017 17:15:26 GMT
At an hour's notice, apparently. Labour still doomed here according to the BBC's ever objective World at One today, though  |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 16, 2017 18:03:26 GMT
Paul Nuttall appears to have taken his website down (supposedly for "scheduled maintenance") and hasn't tweeted since Monday. Which is rather odd behaviour this close to election day. it's a perfectly legitimate tactic to keep your candidate away from the media and even the electorate. Labour seem to have been doing the former to a certain extent. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 16, 2017 18:09:14 GMT
Paul Nuttall appears to have taken his website down (supposedly for "scheduled maintenance") and hasn't tweeted since Monday. Which is rather odd behaviour this close to election day. it's a perfectly legitimate tactic to keep your candidate away from the media and even the electorate. Labour seem to have been doing the former to a certain extent. Up to a point, as they say. Taking down your personal website entirely as the election campaign you are involved in reaches its climax? REALLY?? |
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YL
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Post by YL on Feb 16, 2017 18:22:48 GMT
Labour only do as well as they do because of BME voters and the liberal elite. Well, yes, given that BME voters are a generally good demographic group for Labour and that "liberal elite" is essentially a right-wingers' snarl word for certain people the user doesn't like and who are not very likely to vote UKIP or Conservative, that is probably true. And it has probably been true for a rather long time. But I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 16, 2017 18:25:41 GMT
I suspect the AfD will be looking to gain that ward from the CDU at the next City Council elections! They'll have stiff competition from the Partito Democratico Yeah, Florence is the one place I'd expect them to hold on in the face of a M5S tidal wave. |
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Post by right on Feb 16, 2017 18:48:43 GMT
I'd be amazed if there wasn't a stink over the Lib Dems not pulling a similar stunt somewhere at sometime. Wouldn't be amazed if Labour didn't find it in time. Where is the Stoke Muslim community from? I only have real experience of the Sylheti community and I get the impression that other South Asian Muslim communities are quite a bit more westernised in their approach to politics, although that probably differs town from town. |
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Post by right on Feb 16, 2017 18:52:10 GMT
Funny....I thought Hustings were where the candidates appeared in public, to be scrutinised, in person, by the people they expect to vote for them? Why Hustings, why not Shureham or Worthing? Let other misspelt Sussex towns see their candidates! |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 16, 2017 18:58:33 GMT
6.9% of usual residents in Stoke-on-Trent Central ticked the Muslim box on the religion question. If we look at the ethnicity question then we note that 4.5% of usual residents ticked the Pakistani box. So mostly from Pakistan/Pakistan-administered-Kashmir with a general scattering from elsewhere. But as this numbers show this is hardly a heavily Muslim/heavily Asian/heavily minority/whatever seat.
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 16, 2017 18:59:25 GMT
Paul Nuttall appears to have taken his website down (supposedly for "scheduled maintenance") and hasn't tweeted since Monday. Which is rather odd behaviour this close to election day. it's a perfectly legitimate tactic to keep your candidate away from the media and even the electorate. Labour seem to have been doing the former to a certain extent. The candidate's sole job is to sign 3 pieces of paper before the election and 1 piece of paper after the election. Anything else that he or she does is only likely to cause trouble. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 16, 2017 19:05:10 GMT
Voting patterns are the usual ones; Labour as the default option but significant numbers quite happy to support candidates of other parties under the right circumstances. The most Muslim ward in Stoke (not in this constituency) was a Conservative gain in 2015 and this was pretty clearly due to votes from the Pakistani community.
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Post by justin124 on Feb 16, 2017 19:09:19 GMT
it's a perfectly legitimate tactic to keep your candidate away from the media and even the electorate. Labour seem to have been doing the former to a certain extent. Up to a point, as they say. Taking down your personal website entirely as the election campaign you are involved in reaches its climax? REALLY?? But there is no requirement for any candidate to have a website at all - nor to use social media. If I was a candidate I would quite deliberately ignore them and be very happy to rely on the campaigning techniques employed in - say - the 1960s. In the same spirit I would avoid attending the various Hustings events arranged and instead organize my own public meetings. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 16, 2017 19:38:25 GMT
Taking that approach from the start is one thing, but that is not what has happened here.
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Post by john07 on Feb 16, 2017 19:50:32 GMT
it's a perfectly legitimate tactic to keep your candidate away from the media and even the electorate. Labour seem to have been doing the former to a certain extent. Up to a point, as they say. Taking down your personal website entirely as the election campaign you are involved in reaches its climax? REALLY?? Normally it would be a mistake, especially for a candidate of a non-incumbent party. However it is a very wise move regarding Nuttall as it will give them the chance to remove any more porkies that may be lurking. |
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