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Post by brianj on Jan 12, 2017 23:07:03 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jan 12, 2017 23:08:31 GMT
Plenty of dodgy barchart potential here for years to come I should think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 23:10:54 GMT
Politics, bloody hell
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Post by Robert Waller on Jan 12, 2017 23:11:49 GMT
I think it'll be fun if the Gade Valley swing goes in too ...
( ... not the swing from 2016).
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 12, 2017 23:11:54 GMT
Plenty of dodgy barchart potential here for years to come I should think. I am building one out of lego right now for the living room window. Going to feel a bit of an arse if we lose in 3 Rivers. |
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Post by marksenior on Jan 12, 2017 23:13:16 GMT
Gade Valley is a LD gain
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Post by Jack on Jan 12, 2017 23:13:53 GMT
Sunderland was a strong Leave area so how are the Lib Dems, of all parties, winning a council seat there? With a massive swing to boot.
Bonkers.
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Post by middleenglander on Jan 12, 2017 23:13:54 GMT
Sunderland, Sandhill - Liberal Democrat gain from Labour| Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2016 | since 2015 | since 2014 | since 2012 "top" | since 2012 "average" | Liberal Democrat | 824 | 45.0% | +40.9% | +41.5% | +34.8% | +32.2% | +31.1% | Labour | 458 | 25.0% | -30.0% | -29.9% | -40.6% | -44.7% | -42.2% | UKIP | 343 | 18.7% | -7.2% | -7.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 184 | 10.0% | -2.4% | -5.7% | -14.2% | -7.4% | -8.9% | Green | 23 | 1.3% | -1.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Total votes | 1,832 |
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Swing Labour to Liberal Democrat ~ 35½% since 2016 and 2015, ~ 37¾% since 2014 and similar since 2012 Council now 66 Labour, 6 Conservative, 2 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Three Rivers, Gade Valley - result awaited 44.7% | Party | 2017 votes | 2017 share | since 2016 | since 2015 | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 2 column 5 | Row 2 column 6 | Row 2 column 7 | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 3 column 5 | Row 3 column 6 | Row 3 column 7 | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 4 column 5 | Row 4 column 6 | Row 4 column 7 | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 5 column 5 | Row 5 column 6 | Row 5 column 7 | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 6 column 5 | Row 6 column 6 | Row 6 column 7 | Total votes | Row 7 column 2 | Row 7 column 3 | Row 7 column 4 | Row 7 column 5 | Row 7 column 6 | Row 7 column 7 |
Swing Council now 19 Liberal Democrat, 16 Conservative, 3 Labour, 1 Vacant
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2017 23:16:58 GMT
Stephen O'Brien, LibDem 824, 45.0% (+41.5%) Gary Waller, Lab 458, 25.0% (-29.9%) Bryan Foster, UKIP 343, 18.7% (-7.2%) Gavin Wilson, Con 184, 10.0% (-5.7%) Helmut Izaks, Grn 23, 1.3% (+1.3%) Swing Labour to Liberal Democrat 35.7% Bloody hellfire. Nurse! The brandy! And the nurse! Drink up Adam. Congratulations. That is a sensational result on any measure. You put the work in and you worked it hard against a typical northern Labour complacent fiefdom where years of neglect and inactivity seem to have come home to roost. This could be the start of Scotland all over again. Pity we were not part of it. But as long as someone puts the boot in I am quite happy. Off to open a bottle. It may be a flash in the pan but I suspect not. Not in the heavy Leave areas. Get some money on Copeland later. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 12, 2017 23:20:14 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2017 23:21:18 GMT
It's a most sensational result. I had no inkling. The comfort for Labour is that they still beat UKIP. It shows how vulnerable Labour is to serious challenge, which in many wards they have never faced. Actually its a truly terrible result for UKIP. Labour vote collapses in exactly the sort of place where UKIP is supposed to scoop up Leave voting white working class voters disillusioned with Labour, UKIP posters on here suggesting that a creditable campaign was run, and the result is... a landslide to the LDs. No idea why, but very bad news for UKIP. At least Labour know that they are currently in the shit. (And most of them know the reason.) Frankly I don't care and I think Labour have a deal more to worry about than us. The public have not read our insider script. They just wanted shot and turned to the outfit working hardest and with the bigger profile. In Hartlepool it was us. Here it is you. Not a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 23:21:19 GMT
That is a kicking. Even with a local by election caveat. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 12, 2017 23:21:49 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2017 23:23:13 GMT
Mark Seniors head is due to explode. Veritably a Win Win situation! |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 12, 2017 23:24:14 GMT
Sunderland was a strong Leave area so how are the Lib Dems, of all parties, winning a council seat there? With a massive swing to boot. Bonkers. Because it isn't the same thing. Some people have got carried away and started defining an area's politics entirely by its referendum vote. I'm taking a wild guess and speculating that this issue didn't feature much in the Lib Dem campaign. |
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Post by lancastrian on Jan 12, 2017 23:26:54 GMT
Bloody hellfire. Nurse! The brandy! And the nurse! Drink up Adam. Congratulations. That is a sensational result on any measure. You put the work in and you worked it hard against a typical northern Labour complacent fiefdom where years of neglect and inactivity seem to have come home to roost. This could be the start of Scotland all over again. Pity we were not part of it. But as long as someone puts the boot in I am quite happy. Off to open a bottle. It may be a flash in the pan but I suspect not. Not in the heavy Leave areas. Get some money on Copeland later. ?? This is the Labour (and UKIP) vote collapsing to the party of Remaining in the EU. The people of Sunderland showing decisively that they have changed their mind in light of the reality of Brexit.(Alternatively that the Lib Dems are, as ever, good at low turnout local elections) And I don't get why as a committed leaver you would like to see the invisible Labour opposition replaced by the Lib Dems who would use that position to stop Brexit, or at least prevent hard Brexit. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2017 23:29:05 GMT
It would seem that for the LDs at the moment 'The Fart is forgotten'? You must start to fancy your chances in Copeland on this showing. I wonder what is suddenly behind it? Fickle cattle the electorate.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 12, 2017 23:32:05 GMT
That's it! I'm definitely predicting Lib Dem gains in the next two council by-elections, whatever the local circumstances.  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 12, 2017 23:35:43 GMT
That's it! I'm definitely predicting Lib Dem gains in the next two council by-elections, whatever the local circumstances. I am happy to have a wager with you that whatever the local circumstances, the Lib Dems will not gain the next two council by-elections. Shall we say £1m ? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 12, 2017 23:36:45 GMT
Drink up Adam. Congratulations. That is a sensational result on any measure. You put the work in and you worked it hard against a typical northern Labour complacent fiefdom where years of neglect and inactivity seem to have come home to roost. This could be the start of Scotland all over again. Pity we were not part of it. But as long as someone puts the boot in I am quite happy. Off to open a bottle. It may be a flash in the pan but I suspect not. Not in the heavy Leave areas. Get some money on Copeland later. ?? This is the Labour (and UKIP) vote collapsing to the party of Remaining in the EU. The people of Sunderland showing decisively that they have changed their mind in light of the reality of Brexit.(Alternatively that the Lib Dems are, as ever, good at low turnout local elections) And I don't get why as a committed leaver you would like to see the invisible Labour opposition replaced by the Lib Dems who would use that position to stop Brexit, or at least prevent hard Brexit. The medium term game has been to exit the EU but the more important long term game must always be the destruction of socialism. I see the LDs as usually reasonable and measured in all policies with a number of good quality MPs before the cull in 15; whereas Labour are a shambles with incoherent policies and half-digested rubbish nearly everywhere, and with a large number of pig ignorant and other entirely obnoxious MPs. No contest. Glad to see a LD win at present. If I see it getting out of hand and leading to a second Referendum or other backsliding....Then I reach for a hand-grenade! |
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