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Post by philipchandler on Dec 21, 2016 21:23:08 GMT
I notice that this is number 30 on the list of Conservative targets. As a less than insightful remark, I notice that Tooting is number 24, and didn't that work out well for the Conservatives?
Obviously this one's very different from Tooting, but I still think Labour will hold on, although it could go the other way.
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Post by Robert Waller on Dec 21, 2016 21:40:20 GMT
I may have missed it, but has anyone yet pointed out that this seat will effectively be abolished for 2020?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 21:58:51 GMT
I may have missed it, but has anyone yet pointed out that this seat will effectively be abolished for 2020? Ditto Liverpool Walton for the other likely by-election this term.... |
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Post by greenhert on Dec 21, 2016 22:00:25 GMT
I may have missed it, but has anyone yet pointed out that this seat will effectively be abolished for 2020? Actually Workington is more likely to be abolished for 2020. Copeland will just expand from its 2010 boundaries to become Whitehaven & Workington. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Dec 21, 2016 22:01:22 GMT
Actually, the proposed Workington & Whitehaven seat contains more of Copeland than it does of Workington, but yes, that makes it more likely that Labour will go down the experienced local councillor route rather than trying to parachute someone in.
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Post by janwhitby on Dec 21, 2016 23:51:28 GMT
Hello, My first time to post but am a long time reader. I read today that Ed Balls or Tony Blair are considering putting themselves forward for this seat. www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/21/corbyn-critic-jamie-reed-quits-labour-mp-byelection-copelandI may sit in a strange position politically in that I'm from a working class family who have voted Labour their whole lives. But since Corbyn and Brexit I'm one of these who have been leaning towards UKIP. But I've also been really impressed with the ethos of Theresa May as vicars daughter and her pitch to improve life for working class people. It was at this point that I realised that May is offering the same hope that Blair offered in 96/97 & I started to re-evaluate my thoughts towards him. Yes he had to sell his soul, but he did a lot of good and he is a politician better than the current shambles in the labour party. I was wondering if people think the paper might be right and that this could be the time and place for Blair to make his return. I'd welcome him back if so with open arms. On a different note, will this seat have any traction for a progressive alliance? |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 22, 2016 1:48:54 GMT
Labour have held this seat as has been indicated since 1935, but rarely with a great degree of comfort. The popularity of Jack Cunningham was certainly a factor in maintaining this throughout the 1980s. The choice of candidate is crucial in current circumstances for this to continue - if Labour gets this right I cannot see us losing the seat. Get it wrong and I would see at least an even chance of a Tory gain. And also held it 1910-18 (when the sitting MP rather oddly went off to a less promising constituency and lost), 1922-24 and 1929-31. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 5:33:55 GMT
Blair or Balls in this seat? I'd say now, right here, that such a thing will not happen.
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Post by uhurasmazda on Dec 22, 2016 5:35:51 GMT
Blair or Balls in this seat? I'd say now, right here, that such a thing will not happen. Do people still spread rumours about Mili-D, or have they returned to their senses? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 7:29:41 GMT
If nothing else, it will be an interesting election. and not a forgone conclusion.
Does put Corbyn in a sticky position as his anti Nuclear stance is not going to be popular.
It will be interesting to see how much LD, Greens and UKIP fight this to give Labour or Conservatives a clear run.
As Tim Farrons constituency borders this one, how much will he push in what has been in the past not fertile ground for the Lib Dems.
All in all a satisfactory by election to look forward too in the new year, this is quite a delightful present for Christmas.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Dec 22, 2016 9:18:30 GMT
Welcome, always good to have new members, but please don't believe everything you read in the press! I was wondering if people think the paper might be right and that this could be the time and place for Blair to make his return. I'd welcome him back if so with open arms. As would many people, but not quite the 13.5million who sent him to Downing Street On a different note, will this seat have any traction for a progressive alliance? Personally I hope not and politically I doubt it. Even if such a progressive alliance were to take off (at a UK level) it would be an odd start for Labour to come on their hands and knees to the Lib Dems and Greens, who collectively got 6.5% last year, begging them not to stand in a seat they've held for 80 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 9:30:51 GMT
Balls would sweep the floor with them. Me I will opt for a leave/neutral GMB councillor or Union full timer
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 22, 2016 9:38:19 GMT
May be an excuse for a period staying and drinking in the Prince of Wales in Foxfield, just outside the constituency. Certainly one of the best pubs not only in Cumbria but the whole country . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 9:46:26 GMT
Wonder did he look for the job or was he head hunted as it is similar to his old one.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 22, 2016 10:05:21 GMT
Balls would sweep the floor with them. Me I will opt for a leave/neutral GMB councillor or Union full timer I must admit I am mystified where this idea he is a big vote winner comes from - have people really forgotten last year already? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 10:16:43 GMT
Balls would sweep the floor with them. Me I will opt for a leave/neutral GMB councillor or Union full timer I must admit I am mystified where this idea he is a big vote winner comes from - have people really forgotten last year already? Social Media superstar, things change but that was a poor Strictly joke. |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 22, 2016 10:18:58 GMT
Thought it could be tbf. Have never watched it myself and proud of that fact  As for the person upthread who suggested Blair could stand here..........its not April 1 yet, you know. |
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Post by Antiochian on Dec 22, 2016 10:52:00 GMT
The Labourites can chuckle at Balls but frankly Strictly has made him a supernova (out of a black hole) and he would waltz in (pardon the pun) in Copeland.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:12:04 GMT
Balls would sweep the floor with them. Me I will opt for a leave/neutral GMB councillor or Union full timer I must admit I am mystified where this idea he is a big vote winner comes from - have people really forgotten last year already? Nope, when ever I feel down I go watch a repeat of the result, just as a pick me up....... |
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Post by froome on Dec 22, 2016 11:29:37 GMT
The Labourites can chuckle at Balls but frankly Strictly has made him a supernova (out of a black hole) and he would waltz in (pardon the pun) in Copeland. So is that a prediction? Celebrities will win everything in 2017. That is quite possible, and such an utterly depressing thought that i think I'll just go out now and dig a big hole in my garden to hide in. |
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