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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 10:59:00 GMT
Surprising that they selected someone potentially not suitable for a by election when this has been on the cards for several months, if not years.
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Post by keithn on Oct 28, 2016 11:39:19 GMT
Goldsmith (Con) - 56% Olney (LD) - 29 Not sure if other party candidates were included or not. The other figures were Labour 10%, others 5%. I think this poll was carried out before UKIP's decision not to put a candidate up so UKIP might be part of the 'others'. (and, strictly speaking, Goldsmith should be recorded as (Ind)) |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 28, 2016 11:56:43 GMT
Report that LDs might be changing candidate - anyone know more? We may not be handling this very well .. Quelle surprise.  Standard practice (certainly in 2008) was: 1. By-election occurs. 2. All approved candidates notified. 3. Applications invited (including from any current ppc) and received. 4. Local Party sifts applications and draws up shortlist. 5. Shortlisted candidates are interviewed by the grown-ups in Central London. 6. Short short list drawn up by HQ. 7. Hustings and selection by local members. Not sure if these rules have changed. |
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Post by thirdchill on Oct 28, 2016 12:04:58 GMT
This "progressive alliance" stuff tends to miss a major point, which is that all the parties mentioned offer totally different things. Picking one candidate is highly unlikely to deliver a vote vastly greater than the sum of its parts in many seats and will likely provoke some people to vote Tory or not at all. ^This. It relies on the lazy assumption that voters of one party will all definitely transfer to another specific party that labels itself 'progressive'. Same applies in the conservative/ukip scenario, one party withdrawing does not mean votes transfer automatically to the other party, there are people in both who would not preference the other party. By this logic, UKIP and Green voters would never second preference each other. From the salford mayoral count, i can say with total certainty that this is nonsense, and a surprisingly large number first and second preferenced these parties. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 28, 2016 13:41:35 GMT
So we are to have another Batley and Spen are we with no Conservative and no UKIP candidate? This is not a good trend. I can see that it makes sense for each party and it does help the defence against the LDs but I still don't like this tendency. I wonder if we shall see more of it as part of a more direct form of tactical voting/standing? However - the Batley by election had to happen. This is a stunt and a fix and it's clear the Tories will let him stand without opposition and welcome him back if reelected. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 28, 2016 14:02:58 GMT
So we are to have another Batley and Spen are we with no Conservative and no UKIP candidate? This is not a good trend. I can see that it makes sense for each party and it does help the defence against the LDs but I still don't like this tendency. I wonder if we shall see more of it as part of a more direct form of tactical voting/standing? However - the Batley by election had to happen. This is a stunt and a fix and it's clear the Tories will let him stand without opposition and welcome him back if reelected. Agreed and deplored on each separate level. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 28, 2016 14:03:12 GMT
Goldsmith (Con) - 56% Olney (LD) - 29 Not sure if other party candidates were included or not. If you are quoting a poll on voting intentions, you should give more details than that. Organisation? Sample size? Question? Fieldwork dates? |
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 28, 2016 14:09:59 GMT
Flash!! Tony Blair to stand for LibDems!!!!
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 28, 2016 14:10:24 GMT
Or possibly not  |
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Post by bexley on Oct 28, 2016 14:11:10 GMT
I hear Cllr Danny Hackett - Labour in Bexley is considering putting in papers
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 28, 2016 14:25:26 GMT
Goldsmith (Con) - 56% Olney (LD) - 29 Not sure if other party candidates were included or not. I'm not sure that poll is very meaningful at this stage - the LibDem by-election machine is yet to get rolling and how many people is Goldsmith going to have working for him on the ground? The Tory Party organisation may not be standing against him but how many Conservatives are going to travel to Richmond to campaign for an Independent candidate? Linky... www.bmgresearch.co.uk/richmond-park-election-voting-key-issue-results/ |
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Post by philipchandler on Oct 28, 2016 14:33:00 GMT
The poll was carried out for the Evening Standard by BMG. The report from the Evening Standard suggests that they support Zac Goldsmith, and very much attempts to frame this as a referendum on Heathrow, failing to mention that all competition he'll face will be anti-Heathrow too. It seems that a question was asked as what people think is most important, 25% saying that Brexit (can't believe that I've just used that word) is most important, 22% the local MPs record and views (whether that's good or bad for Goldsmith, I don't know) and then Heathrow on 21%.
One way or another, I agree that it isn't too meaningful. The Evening Standard concede that it is a swing of 6% to the Lib Dems, and I personally would be surprised if the swing was that low at the end of the campaign. For me, three things aren't clear: how long Goldsmith can keep talking about Heathrow, despite his opponents being in agreement with him; what local people think about him and about this by election, do they think it's little more than a publicity stunt or are they glad that he's kept to his word; and how closely Goldsmith will be associated with the Government.
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Post by mboy on Oct 28, 2016 15:14:54 GMT
I hear Cllr Danny Hackett - Labour in Bexley is considering putting in papers Hi Danny, welcome to the forum |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 15:27:15 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 28, 2016 15:49:52 GMT
If Caroline Lucas wants to rally behind the Lib Dems she can do so quite easily by joining them.
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Post by Jack on Oct 28, 2016 15:54:00 GMT
If Caroline Lucas wants to rally behind the Lib Dems she can do so quite easily by joining them.  |
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 28, 2016 16:07:11 GMT
So we are to have another Batley and Spen are we with no Conservative and no UKIP candidate? This is not a good trend. I can see that it makes sense for each party and it does help the defence against the LDs but I still don't like this tendency. I wonder if we shall see more of it as part of a more direct form of tactical voting/standing? However - the Batley by election had to happen. This is a stunt and a fix and it's clear the Tories will let him stand without opposition and welcome him back if reelected. Well, if he loses I shall be inviting the whole forum to point at and laugh at him. He's being very foolish and I honestly don't know what exactly he's hoping to achieve. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 28, 2016 16:17:19 GMT
However - the Batley by election had to happen. This is a stunt and a fix and it's clear the Tories will let him stand without opposition and welcome him back if reelected. Well, if he loses I shall be inviting the whole forum to point at and laugh at him. He's being very foolish and I honestly don't know what exactly he's hoping to achieve. I assume he has agreed that he will keep his promise of having his personal protest which May has agreed to. In turn this means they can present themselves as open minded. I do think that May knows the third runway will never happen and as MP for Maidenhead will do her utmost to ensure it doesn't while pretending the opposite |
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Post by greenhert on Oct 28, 2016 16:47:35 GMT
According to the official notice of election on Richmond-upon-Thames council's website (www.richmond.gov.uk) the deadline for candidate nominations is 8th November (I erroneously reported it as 3rd November initially-sorry about the mistake).
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Post by Jack on Oct 28, 2016 16:52:19 GMT
According to the official notice of election on Richmond-upon-Thames council's website (www.richmond.gov.uk) the deadline for candidate nominations is 8th November (I erroneously reported it as 3rd November initially-sorry about the mistake). I'm not angry, just disappointed. |
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