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Post by Jack on Dec 2, 2016 14:44:10 GMT
OK. 1872. Not a disaster. Perfectly possible to turn that at the next election when there will be no outside support and a proper full-blooded Conservative campaign. He lost much the same proportion as at Witney. In both cases party punished for causing an entirely unnecessary by-election. Be warned Blue Team. That is quite enough bloody nonsense with a small majority. Get a grip. LDs now clearly identified as the new enemy for all of us. They are the party to stall and to resist. Don't let the momentum get under way or who knows what result for any of us? They are now clearly identified as the Anti-Brexit and even Anti-Democratic party, the party who wish to overturn Brexit by any means. We must use every opportunity to leaflet that to every household especially in those strongly Brexit seats. New phase of the War. No we are not. Calm down Carlton.  To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. Olney said, and I quote, "it does look now as if we can have a vote in Parliament that might override the referendum". I almost wish Goldsmith had won. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:46:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:47:43 GMT
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. Olney said, and I quote, "it does look now as if we can have a vote in Parliament that might override the referendum". I almost wish Goldsmith had won. Why are LibDems on this forum so much better than their imbecilic anti-democratic elected representation? |
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Post by Jack on Dec 2, 2016 14:49:41 GMT
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. Olney said, and I quote, "it does look now as if we can have a vote in Parliament that might override the referendum". I almost wish Goldsmith had won. Why are LibDems on this forum so much better than their imbecilic anti-democratic elected representation? Apparently, Olney only got involved in politics after the 2015 election. Now she's an MP. There's hope for me yet.  |
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 2, 2016 14:52:02 GMT
I think so voted for 'making things the way they used to be', which simply isn't going to happen - its an impossibility Let me make this clear, I am NOT advocating repatriation. However, during my adult life I have lived in two places where this has happened within (just) living memory (Thessaloniki, in Greece, and Szczecin, in Poland). I would also point to the examples of the likes of Algeria and Zimbabwe. I suppose, being British, we are too 'civilised' for this kind of thing. However, I don't see repatriation as an 'impossibility' in France, Netherlands and Austria in the medium to long term. Generally speaking it is not possible to repatriate one's own citizens. Assuming that we are talking about democratic states, not the likes of Algeria or Zimbabwe! |
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 2, 2016 14:53:15 GMT
Why are LibDems on this forum so much better than their imbecilic anti-democratic elected representation? Apparently, Olney only got involved in politics after the 2015 election. Now she's an MP. There's hope for me yet. You'll have to join a party then - but I don't think the LibDems are a very good 'fit' for your views |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:54:31 GMT
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Post by Jack on Dec 2, 2016 14:58:23 GMT
Apparently, Olney only got involved in politics after the 2015 election. Now she's an MP. There's hope for me yet. You'll have to join a party then - but I don't think the LibDems are a very good 'fit' for your views I'll join the Conservatives but say I'm a member of the Liberal Unionists so I don't feel as bad. |
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Post by Adam on Dec 2, 2016 15:01:47 GMT
Someone will know - did he promise to resign and fight a by election, or just to resign? the three issues he pledged in his (succesful) bid to get elected in 2010 that he said he would resign and provoke a by-election over:He certainly succeded in allowing people to penalise his party. But, just think, we could have had a by-election on the issue of parking charges in Richmond Park. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 2, 2016 15:11:17 GMT
At least by getting rid of Zac we're one step closer to delivering a country that works for everyone, not just the privileged few.Surprised that you would wish to say that, but even more that you believe it to be necessary to say it, and that you actually think the removal of that one man would make any difference to anything. He will remain rich in or out of the HOC. Please don't use these meaningless jargon phrases like "...delivering a country that works for everyone..." It is pure and applied virtue signalling bollocks. You must know that.......Surely? It is what tedious politicians say in a swirl of hot air signifying nothing. The Conservatives (or indeed Labour) cannot deliver any such thing. Think about what you say and the 'How' it would be done! For everybody? Please!!! |
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 2, 2016 15:18:30 GMT
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Post by Eastwood on Dec 2, 2016 15:19:33 GMT
Pretty obvious that some of them voted LibDem as a means of getting rid of Goldsmith. Can't see what it has to do with Corbyn! In a FPTP system its been part of the political scene for years, particularly in seats like this i wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some Labour party members in Richmond who have never voted Labour in a general election! Indeed. My father is a longstanding Labour supporter and occasional member who hasn't voted Labour in a General Election since October 1974 having lived in a variety of Liberal vs Conservative seats since then. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:23:04 GMT
To be expected as I doubt she has little intensive training judging by her background. She will get nowhere near Brillo. N.b Did anybody point out to Hardly Brewing that there is a second vote on Olney, it's called a General Election. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:26:15 GMT
This is less clever than you think it is. It seems to consist of the interviewer repeating the same smartarsed comment about a "second by-election" over and over again - not even an especially smart one, as the new MP will indeed need to seek renewal of her mandate in 2020. |
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Post by mboy on Dec 2, 2016 15:45:46 GMT
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. Olney said, and I quote, "it does look now as if we can have a vote in Parliament that might override the referendum". I almost wish Goldsmith had won. Why are LibDems on this forum so much better than their imbecilic anti-democratic elected representation? It helps that we have slept this week, whereas Olney will have had about 10 hours since Tuesday. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:46:48 GMT
seems a number of peoples thought they were voting for repatriation, And I wonder how they got that idea?? Well it wisnae me your godness |
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Post by mboy on Dec 2, 2016 15:53:40 GMT
This is less clever than you think it is. It seems to consist of the interviewer repeating the same smartarsed comment about a "second by-election" over and over again - not even an especially smart one, as the new MP will indeed need to seek renewal of her mandate in 2020. Agreed. The interviewer starts off with a very smarmy attitude and so it's obvious from the start that the entire interview is just a game of trickery and isnt serious. Not only that, but the interview then runs with an obvious lie: "Every single leading member of the Remain campaign said a vote to leave the EU is a vote to leave the single market", which, yes, Olney should have called out as a barefaced lie there and then but didn't. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 2, 2016 16:07:32 GMT
To be expected as I doubt she has little intensive training judging by her background. She will get nowhere near Brillo. N.b Did anybody point out to Hardly Brewing that there is a second vote on Olney, it's called a General Election. No. Sarah Olney could have done that if she had any sense |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 16:35:31 GMT
This is less clever than you think it is. It seems to consist of the interviewer repeating the same smartarsed comment about a "second by-election" over and over again - not even an especially smart one, as the new MP will indeed need to seek renewal of her mandate in 2020. Agreed. The interviewer starts off with a very smarmy attitude and so it's obvious from the start that the entire interview is just a game of trickery and isnt serious. Not only that, but the interview then runs with an obvious lie: "Every single leading member of the Remain campaign said a vote to leave the EU is a vote to leave the single market", which, yes, Olney should have called out as a barefaced lie there and then but didn't. Sarah Olney is a big girl who has now become a professional politician. Hostile interviews go with the territory. It's like becoming a teacher and complaining that you have naughty children to deal with. I'd be quite happy to take rude and smarmy interviewers if I was paid her salary. |
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Post by zoe on Dec 2, 2016 16:43:25 GMT
Agreed. The interviewer starts off with a very smarmy attitude and so it's obvious from the start that the entire interview is just a game of trickery and isnt serious. Not only that, but the interview then runs with an obvious lie: "Every single leading member of the Remain campaign said a vote to leave the EU is a vote to leave the single market", which, yes, Olney should have called out as a barefaced lie there and then but didn't. Sarah Olney is a big girl who has now become a professional politician. Hostile interviews go with the territory. It's like becoming a teacher and complaining that you have naughty children to deal with. I'd be quite happy to take rude and smarmy interviewers if I was paid her salary. I suspect you would be better off if you asked for Julia Hartley Brewer's salary |
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