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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Dec 2, 2016 2:12:04 GMT
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Post by Crimson King on Dec 2, 2016 2:13:31 GMT
I heard the Lib Dem total as 20,525. so did the beeb |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 2, 2016 2:13:35 GMT
Not sure whether the winner got 20,502, 20,510, 20,512 or 20,525. Noise from the supporters made it difficult to hear.
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Post by Crimson King on Dec 2, 2016 2:14:40 GMT
I heard the Lib Dem total as 20,525. so did the beeb sorry 20510 according to the graphic |
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Post by Sharon on Dec 2, 2016 2:15:04 GMT
Ok, now I can finally sleep! Me too. Nighty night! |
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Post by mrhell on Dec 2, 2016 2:15:25 GMT
Biggest own goal in the history of British politics. There have been some dubious decisions on calling general elections that rank well ahead of this. Yesterday I was at a talk on politics between the wars and Baldwin calling a General Election in 1923 was a rather bad call. |
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Post by johnloony on Dec 2, 2016 2:16:49 GMT
I heard the Lib Dem total as 20,525. Yet again the stupid R.O. didn't announce it properly, but if the discrepancy was 0 then it would have been 20,516. 20,525 would mean a discrepancy of +9. The BBC says 20,510. |
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Post by Crimson King on Dec 2, 2016 2:17:30 GMT
Yes, that makes perfect sense doesn't it Shirley you stupid cow. The results of a nationwide referendum should clearly be overridden on the basis of a by election in a single constituency. You can bet more Lib Dems, including Farron, will be saying the same thing. It'll probably start with Olney's acceptance speech. didn't quite |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2016 2:18:06 GMT
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 2, 2016 2:18:51 GMT
You can bet more Lib Dems, including Farron, will be saying the same thing. It'll probably start with Olney's acceptance speech. didn't quite Didn't at all. |
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Post by greenhert on Dec 2, 2016 2:20:21 GMT
Full percentages:
Sarah Olney (LD) 49.7% (+30.4%)
Zac Goldsmith (Ind Con) 45.1%
Christian Wolmar (Lab) 3.7% (-8.7%)
Howling Laud Hope (OMRLP) 0.44%
Fiona Syms (Ind Con) 0.42%
Dominic Stockford (CPA) 0.40%
Maharaja Jamnu & Kashmir (One Love) 0.16%
David Powell (Ind) 0.08%
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 2, 2016 2:24:39 GMT
Not important but this means the number of female MPs will almost certainly hit 30% next week with the result of the Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 2, 2016 2:30:34 GMT
TurnOut: impressive 53.6%!
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 2, 2016 2:31:39 GMT
OK. 1872. Not a disaster. Perfectly possible to turn that at the next election when there will be no outside support and a proper full-blooded Conservative campaign. He lost much the same proportion as at Witney. In both cases party punished for causing an entirely unnecessary by-election. Be warned Blue Team. That is quite enough bloody nonsense with a small majority. Get a grip.
LDs now clearly identified as the new enemy for all of us. They are the party to stall and to resist. Don't let the momentum get under way or who knows what result for any of us? They are now clearly identified as the Anti-Brexit and even Anti-Democratic party, the party who wish to overturn Brexit by any means. We must use every opportunity to leaflet that to every household especially in those strongly Brexit seats.
New phase of the War.
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Post by johnloony on Dec 2, 2016 2:36:08 GMT
TurnOut: impressive 53.6%! The biggest December turnout since Enfield Southgate 1984 (according to someone on Twitter (I haven't double-checked)) |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 2, 2016 2:41:39 GMT
I still want him to win to bolster the majority and to upset all the rest of you. Bloody hell Carlton, you've had everything else this year, give us a bit of somethimg to celebrate this year. I won't appeal to christmas, but for samhain! There you go Jim! Feel better now? Are you sure this is actually in your best interest? Ah well! Suit yourself. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 2, 2016 2:48:09 GMT
And the Conservatives let him do it and stand as an independent thus cutting off the support of the full machine. What a Fred Karnos! They should have expelled him from the party and put up a bright young candidate to fight a strong Brexit and pro-Heathrow and right wing campaign with a view to him taking it back at the next GE. That would have destroyed the very pro-Zac local association and probably ensured that they lost the seat at the next general election as well. I suppose that may well be right, and perhaps it had to be played out that way to lance a near impossible boil? But whatever the constituency says he should not be allowed another go. I doubt he would want to but if he does he has to be told 'No'. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 2, 2016 2:51:39 GMT
TurnOut: impressive 53.6%! The biggest December turnout since Enfield Southgate 1984 (according to someone on Twitter (I haven't double-checked)) It's not true. Turnout at the Crewe & Nantwich by-election in 2008 was 58.2%. |
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Post by maxque on Dec 2, 2016 2:54:53 GMT
It is really strange to see people saying tgat Zac shot himself in the foot or made a disasterous decision. Fuck me....no wonder politicians are such liars. The public cry out for an MP that does what he says he will. Then, when they get one they vote him out. Zac promised to resign and fight a by election over Heathrow and he did. What a shame more MPs dont have his honesty and integrity Seems most right-wingers on this website prefers a Brexit cult to honesty, these days. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 2, 2016 3:08:46 GMT
It is really strange to see people saying tgat Zac shot himself in the foot or made a disasterous decision. Fuck me....no wonder politicians are such liars. The public cry out for an MP that does what he says he will. Then, when they get one they vote him out. Zac promised to resign and fight a by election over Heathrow and he did. What a shame more MPs dont have his honesty and integrity I suggest where Zac's judgment can be faulted, knowing without the benefit of hindsight that the Heathrow decision was imminent, and that Richmond Park was almost certainly strongly pro-Remain, was to take such a high profile Brexit role and not follow, on the other side of the argument, Theresa May'a example of taking an initial position and then largely disappearing until it was all over. I also wonder if the style of his Mayoral campaign also worked against him. |
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