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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2016 21:15:41 GMT
I still want him to win to bolster the majority and to upset all the rest of you. How would it bolster any "majority" ? He's an Independent ...  |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 1, 2016 21:17:11 GMT
50-46 to Goldsmith.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 1, 2016 21:19:25 GMT
I like 'thrown caution to the win'! It might catch on. This would be an important win but is really not significant to the voting public. It is I suppose more important to you internally as with a football squad? You say 'have calculated that things cannot get worse for us right now...'? I think that is unduly pessimistic. In my opinion you chose a duff leader who comes across on TV as an unsuccessful geography teacher in a failing Comp. But otherwise the drift looks pretty good. Steady wins and not many losses. Ability to crowd source events like this. More members and very much a niche in being the Remain Party where others are conflicted. The damage from the coalition diminishes daily. Tim Farron seems to be doing a lot better on tv these days provided he picks the right target! www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bbc-question-time-tim-farron-nigel-farage_uk_58376cf8e4b0ddedcf5c90afGetting applause from a BBCQT audience, especially one in London, for spouting a bunch of leftie virtue-signalling platitudes hardly equates to 'doing well on TV'. Any mug could do that. You've got to bear in mind that the majority of people watching at home are not like the studio audience and are sitting there thinking 'what a wanker' |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 1, 2016 21:20:49 GMT
This is why, while I agree with Richard Allen's first paragraph at least, I have to hope that Goldsmith wins |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2016 21:22:08 GMT
The fact that Labour/Liberal Democrat canvassers are reporting a tight race makes me think Goldsmith could be well ahead, but we'll see. Gwyn's 19th Rule of Politics. You don't use canvassers on Polling Day. Gwyn's 8th Rule of Politics. On Polling Day there will be - at most - two people in each party who have any clue as to what's happening. At most. They have no incentive other than to say "keep at it - it's close". |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2016 21:24:44 GMT
My original thought was Goldsmith by 10-12 points. I would now adjust t downward a little except it doesn't matter a jot! So I won't. The result will be what it is. Guesses from hundreds of miles away are ... sans purpose.  |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 1, 2016 21:27:00 GMT
You can't really blame for the LDs for ramping their chances. If you say you're fairly close but probably going to lose most of your canvassers won't put in a decent effort.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 1, 2016 21:29:35 GMT
My original thought was Goldsmith by 10-12 points. I would now adjust t downward a little except it doesn't matter a jot! So I won't. The result will be what it is. Guesses from hundreds of miles away are ... sans purpose. You are correct gwyn but it is what we do here is it not? Yes I couldn't be much further away. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2016 21:33:05 GMT
My original thought was Goldsmith by 10-12 points. I would now adjust t downward a little except it doesn't matter a jot! So I won't. The result will be what it is. Guesses from hundreds of miles away are ... sans purpose. You are correct gwyn but it is what we do here is it not? Yes I couldn't be much further away. I knew you'd say that! My reference was to Crewe being a long way from Richmond. |
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Post by andrew111 on Dec 1, 2016 21:57:51 GMT
Getting applause from a BBCQT audience, especially one in London, for spouting a bunch of leftie virtue-signalling platitudes hardly equates to 'doing well on TV'. Any mug could do that. You've got to bear in mind that the majority of people watching at home are not like the studio audience and are sitting there thinking 'what a wanker' I think a lot of people were saying "Thank God for someone actually standing up to that idiot Farage, instead of fawning all over him and suggesting he should be a British Ambassador" But not you, obviously, you are too polite to call anyone an idiot!  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2016 21:59:15 GMT
So, what does the Exit Poll say?
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Post by right on Dec 1, 2016 22:26:38 GMT
So, what does the Exit Poll say? Unless the constituency has been exited before, is there any value in one? |
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 1, 2016 22:46:37 GMT
Also apparently the Lib Dems are ahead on the first boxes, so we might not be in for a knock-out Goldsmith victory. First boxes are postal vote... |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 1, 2016 22:51:39 GMT
Also apparently the Lib Dems are ahead on the first boxes, so we might not be in for a knock-out Goldsmith victory. Where's the count being held? Just wondering whether the first boxes to arrive are likely to be in strong LD areas. |
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Post by slicesofjim on Dec 1, 2016 22:52:03 GMT
I still want him to win to bolster the majority and to upset all the rest of you. Bloody hell Carlton, you've had everything else this year, give us a bit of somethimg to celebrate this year. I won't appeal to christmas, but for samhain! |
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 1, 2016 22:53:18 GMT
Also apparently the Lib Dems are ahead on the first boxes, so we might not be in for a knock-out Goldsmith victory. Where's the count being held? Just wondering whether the first boxes to arrive are likely to be in strong LD areas. As I said above, normal procedure is that postal votes are counted first so they're non-geographical. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 1, 2016 22:59:06 GMT
I would expect the postal votes in Richmond Park constituency to be more Conservative than the polling station votes. And I'll go away and check based on the GLA.
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Post by mboy on Dec 1, 2016 22:59:25 GMT
Also apparently the Lib Dems are ahead on the first boxes, so we might not be in for a knock-out Goldsmith victory. First boxes are postal vote... Would expect the Tories to win the postal easily in an area like this... Edit: beaten by a millisecond by DB... |
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 1, 2016 22:59:50 GMT
Where's the count being held? Just wondering whether the first boxes to arrive are likely to be in strong LD areas. At Richmond upon Thames College I believe. Looks like that's in Twickenham according to Google Maps. |
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