Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 20, 2016 23:43:45 GMT
So it is true then. Purgatory does exist.
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Oct 20, 2016 23:43:54 GMT
Labour GAIN over Conservative in Witham North, Braintree.
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 20, 2016 23:49:04 GMT
Ah, the joys of a recorded vote where most people are abstaining... Unless you have a cut off time, 6:30pm is a crazy time to start your council meetings. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2016 23:50:14 GMT
So it is true then. Purgatory does exist. Southend was , of course, originally the south end of Prittlewell. |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 20, 2016 23:50:19 GMT
And now it's over...
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2016 23:52:36 GMT
just at the point when we must have increased their viewing figures by about 99%.  |
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Post by jonnymorris on Oct 20, 2016 23:52:54 GMT
Damn. I was about to tune in. |
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Oct 21, 2016 0:17:02 GMT
We know Labour did 76% in Middlesbrough and Greens did 25% in Witham.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2016 0:37:24 GMT
We are people and the descriptive nouns should be regarded as gender neutral. In so far as the gender matters to some, then the Christian name will be a guide. Gender should not matter. Or indeed the first name, for those of us who were never baptised. *ahem* As some of you will be aware I am a militant atheist, but I still like the term Christian name and still use it. |
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Post by Penddu on Oct 21, 2016 1:08:56 GMT
I am not a fluent Welsh speaker...I am OK with the easier mutations (Bach-Fach, Cymru-Gymru) but I usually miss the nasal ones out... (C-Ngh, P-Ph). I don't think they make much difference.. The nasal mutation of P is Mh, but anyway While i am waiting for the Pensarn result.......I am from Penybont. I always say 'yn Penybont' and not 'Ym Mhenybont' or 'a Penybont' and not 'a Phenybont' I dont know if i am grammaticaly correct but i have never been misunderstood or had soneone correct me. Some mutations just seem unneccesay |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 21, 2016 1:14:34 GMT
The nasal mutation of P is Mh, but anyway While i am waiting for the Pensarn result.......I am from Penybont. I always say 'yn Penybont' and not 'Ym Mhenybont' or 'a Penybont' and not 'a Phenybont' I dont know if i am grammaticaly correct but i have never been misunderstood or had soneone correct me. Some mutations just seem unneccesay Does Balham mutate into Fulham?  |
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Post by davidevershed on Oct 21, 2016 1:32:39 GMT
Balham - gateway to the south - Peter Sellars
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johnloony
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Post by johnloony on Oct 21, 2016 1:43:13 GMT
The nasal mutation of P is Mh, but anyway While i am waiting for the Pensarn result.......I am from Penybont. I always say 'yn Penybont' and not 'Ym Mhenybont' or 'a Penybont' and not 'a Phenybont' I dont know if i am grammaticaly correct but i have never been misunderstood or had soneone correct me. Some mutations just seem unneccesay As a multi-linguist (dabbler but not fluent) I get the impression that modern colloquial Welsh is drifting away from the "proper" grammatical Welsh which is taught in books. For example, when Glyn Wise was in Big Brother 10 years ago, I noticed that on one occasion he said "fi caru ti" (I love you) which has the English grammatical construction, instead of "dw i'n dy garu di" which would be the correct form according to what I learnt from my book. It would be easy for young Welsh speakers to eschew use of awkward mutations and just not bother with them if the meaning is clear. It was a similar process (hundreds of years ago) which allowed English to dump the multiple case declensions of German or Anglo-Saxon. |
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Post by Penddu on Oct 21, 2016 2:35:28 GMT
My mother told me 'wi'n garu ti'....in school they taught me 'Rydw i'n dy garu ti'...and in the words of the song (ar lan y mor) ....'rwy'n dy garu ti'
But back on topic.....what happened to Pensarn?
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Oct 21, 2016 7:21:01 GMT
From Britain Elects:
Central (Middlesbrough) result:
LAB: 73.6% (+37.7)
IND: 14.4% (+14.4)
CON: 6.8% (+6.8)
LDEM: 5.1% (+5.1)
No. of Independents didn't stand.
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 21, 2016 7:29:53 GMT
Balham - gateway to the south - Peter Sellars or even Peter Sellers |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 21, 2016 8:05:43 GMT
Witham North Ward (Braintree DC)
LAB GAIN FROM CON : Lab 312 Con 311 Grn 247 LDm 34
Bumpstead Ward (Braintree DC)
CON HOLD: Con 350, UKIP 80, Lab 45, LDm 40, Grn 25
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Oct 21, 2016 8:40:05 GMT
Witham North Ward (Braintree DC) LAB GAIN FROM CON : Lab 312 Con 311 Grn 247 LDm 34 Bumpstead Ward (Braintree DC) CON HOLD: Con 350, UKIP 80, Lab 45, LDm 40, Grn 25 I found Lab 339, Con 308, Grn 227, LD 31 for Witham. |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 21, 2016 8:46:49 GMT
Witham North Ward (Braintree DC) LAB GAIN FROM CON : Lab 312 Con 311 Grn 247 LDm 34 Bumpstead Ward (Braintree DC) CON HOLD: Con 350, UKIP 80, Lab 45, LDm 40, Grn 25 I found Lab 339, Con 308, Grn 227, LD 31 for Witham. yes, mine were the Town council seat, I was confused by their twitter feed. |
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cefin
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Post by cefin on Oct 21, 2016 8:47:01 GMT
The nasal mutation of P is Mh, but anyway While i am waiting for the Pensarn result.......I am from Penybont. I always say 'yn Penybont' and not 'Ym Mhenybont' or 'a Penybont' and not 'a Phenybont' I dont know if i am grammaticaly correct but i have never been misunderstood or had soneone correct me. Some mutations just seem unneccesay Just out of interest, do you think that it would help the survival of the Welsh language by ditching the mutations ( I'm not talking about the plaid cymru leadership) rather than the bullying, discrimination and legislation thats happening at present? It's a genuine enquiry as it strikes me that surely it would make Welsh much easier to learn, or are the mutations so totally integral that they can't be ditched? |
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